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Spot|DSE wrote on 12/30/2004, 11:03 AM
That's the biggest problem, all these folks that have NEVER touched a Z1 making strident claims. I've got a lot of Z1 images to post either tonight or tomorrow, depending on how I can get them captured quickly and cataloged as to their format. But there are lots of ridiculous, specious claims out there about the Z1, HDV, and images in general, when there are NO motion images from the Z1 posted to the web that I'm aware of, other than what we've put up on the VASST site. I'll be posting both raw m2t and wmvHD within the next day or so.
I was really skeptical as to how well HDV could do with the timelapse stuff, because when you speed things up substantially, macroblocks immediately become visible. I was wrong. But all over the web, you'll see all sorts of posts about how you can't speed up or slow down HDV.
We have a word for that...."Pta-Ches'lii." When you're in the barnyard, don't step in it.
Barry_Green wrote on 12/30/2004, 11:42 AM
I certainly encountered no "issues" with the FX1 all the way zoomed out, and can't imagine why there would be with the Z1. I'd say the speculation is what Spot said.

The only "issue" would be a little barrel distortion, which is what you get when you have such a wide-angle lens. And you only see it if you're looking at vertical lines on the sides of the frame. The DVX has the exact same "issue". It's a non-issue.
farss wrote on 12/30/2004, 1:04 PM
We've got FX1s which has the same anything that's going to affect this "issue". I can confirm there's slight barrel distortion. Really only noticeable if you get verticals on the edge of the frame. What I haven't checked to see is if the "issue" gets better / stays the same / gets worse with the Sony WA adaptor. The lens on the camera isn't that wide which is why we're kitting them out with the WA adaptor.
As I've only had a VERY shot time with the DVX100 I can't say how the FX1 compares, I'll have to take Barrys word that it also has the same "issue".
I have however worked with a lot of footage from a 570 and I've never seen this problem. Of course the lens on the 570 costs more than a Z1 so it's hardly a fair comparison.
Bob.
rextilleon wrote on 12/30/2004, 1:28 PM
Spot--in your production pipeline, how do you intend to use the Z1--in other words, what kind of projects. Also, do you intend to charge more for Z1 pieces?
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 12/30/2004, 1:41 PM
alright, then I know what you're talking about, In my photo world we called it fish-eyeing a little. I hear you. that's not an issue in my book.

Dave
Barry_Green wrote on 12/30/2004, 3:26 PM
It's *very* minor, and you really only notice it if you have a pure vertical right at the edge of the frame.

A wide-angle adapter should accentuate it, it does on the DVX and they both have an identical 4.5mm wide-angle lens. But you get such a wonderful wide-angle view, it's just something you manage. It's in no way a defect or an "issue" with either camera.
Spot|DSE wrote on 12/30/2004, 3:37 PM
MOst everything in the future will be Z1 shot, and no, we'll likely not be charging much more for it. It's simply part of our move upward. At CES, you'll see an all-HD project for a major software vendor (not Sony) that will feature what we believe the future is going to be like...
scissorfighter wrote on 6/23/2005, 4:35 AM
I was really skeptical as to how well HDV could do with the timelapse stuff, because when you speed things up substantially, macroblocks immediately become visible. I was wrong.

Spot,
What was your workflow for doing timelapse with the Z1? Did you timelapse "on-the-fly" by capturing individual live frames with some software package, or in post with something like a Vegas velocity envelope + increased clip playback rate, or something else?

Thanks,
Ryan
PeterWright wrote on 6/23/2005, 4:47 AM
With the standard lens zoomed out, there is negligible barrel distortion.

I have the Sony 0.8 w/a lens, and with this there is a slight curvature of verticals near the edge, but far less than on other cameras I have used.
JJKizak wrote on 6/23/2005, 6:11 AM
I have no issues with the lens quality of the Z1 zoomed out max.

JJK