I agree.

The Sony reps need to contact their legal department. I'm sure legal will tell them that failure to enforce part of a contract may render other parts of that contract unenforceable. The Terms & Conditions (found at the bottom of this screen) is a contract between Sony and the participants in this forum, and they state, in part:

You agree not to do any of the following actions while using any Services:

There can be no doubt whatsoever that this poster has caused distress, especially in the post yesterday that took direct, completely unecessary shots at Satish. There can be even less doubt that he has completely violated section five, quoted above.

Sony, from a legal standpoint, you either enforce the T&Cs that you put forth, or you risk never being able to enforce any of them at a later date.

Sadly, there really isn't anything anyone can do. Should Sony revoke Zippy's forum membership, there is nothing preventing him from registering under a different name and continuing in his annoying habits.
Sony could take the drastic measure of tieing forum membership to product registration. However, this would alienate many potential customers.
While zippy is annoying, and his pots even more so, in the end he is harmless. While "Ignore this user" isn't perfect option, is is an option none the less.
As with America, the freedom of speech enabled on this forum comes with a few painful side effects.

As I understood it product registration was a requirment for contributing to this forum.

I certainly wouldn't be saddened to see someone banned for such behavior although it does raise issues as has been said, once you draw a ine it can become very rubbery as has been seen so many times.

On the other hand someone who can only manage such a level of vitriol shall shall no doubt soon get their just rewards, a burst artery would seem to be close at hand.

Freedom of speech isn't part of the forum. It's a priviate forum. You must register to me part of it (in the forum, not a Sony product). It's run by a company, not by the US govt.

Plus noone can bash BB. That's considered wrong by the Sony people. They DO have the power to take posts down.

We could make a decision that NO ONE will post in ANY of zippy's posts, for any reason whatever. That would make things easier.

I agree with the Friar's comments.

I've already "Ignore this user"-ed Zippy, so I don't see his/her (I'm guessing his) messages anymore. But it's still annoying & distracting to see his posts taking up Forum space, especially when folks keep replying to them and thus pushing them up in the Forum lists.
Please, please, everyone, stop replying to those messages, so that they sink out of sight.
(I'm replying to this one only because it's "about", not FROM, him.)

Earth has the right idea.
The only problem is anyone new to this forum is going to get sucked in for a while.

It's too bad ZipPee doesn't have the b*lls to list his email address or web site. Then a couple of us could track him down and "set him straight" off the forum list.

John

I'm sorry but...

I'm beggining to look fowrad to Zippy's posts - I get a good laugh:-)

Seriously, though, let's not infringe his freedom of speech but let's be polite in our freedom of ignoring him ifthat's the only solution. Constant badgering and slating on either side is not constructive and wastes space.

I still think he's a ringer from Sony. You have to admit this forums activity is far above any other.

JJK

What Zippy needs is a big group hug.

>Earth has the right idea.
>The only problem is anyone new to this forum is going to get sucked in for a while.

Worrying about this mythical "new user" is what keeps people responding. As long as people respond, it'll continue.

The boy wants attention. The best way to deal with him is to take away what he wants the most.

FWIW, I belong to another newsgroup where we had a "problem child" dominate for over 2 yrs. We all talked about killfiling him, but we all responded to him because we had to rebut his falsehoods for the mythical newbie and/or lurker. Until we *all* killfiled him, the problem remained.

Remember, the best thing about killfiling is that *you* aren't tempted to respond. You will enjoy the newsgroup a whole lot more. You won't lose any sleep because you're pissed off.

Suggestion: The newbie is probably smarter than we think :-)

I've stopped responding to Zippy, even when he's rational, as I've basically given up on him - it's a terrible thing to say as I still suspect that he's NOT deliberately trying to antagonise anyone and is actually quite genuine (if misguided) in the way he words his posts.

However, I must confess I have yet to add him to my ignore list. I find his posts strangely entertaining, even though I agree that others replying to him only encourages him. Be strong! Resist!

I guess if a user can't resist replying, then maybe it's best to add him to your ignore list. I for one look forward to the day when I read a two-day-old Zippy post and see no replies to it... :-)

And I agree with the earlier poster - newbies here are probably able to spot him for what he is, especially if the other, non-Zippy threads are positive, useful, and polite.

In case you're reading this Zippy, and in case you really and truly don't understand why you've antagonised so many users here, I'd just like to wish you all the best with your editing, and I hope you find the software/hardware solution that works for you and your clients.



Skevos Mavros
mavart@mavart.com
http://www.mavart.com

Just ignore the Zipster?

I can honestly say I am not the type to slow down to look at the car crash, but I just can't help myself when it comes to checking out Zipper's threads.

It must come from that same voyeur instinct. And likewise, it always ties up the (forum) traffic too.

Greg

"1. Harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress or discomfort..."

How many people do you think would fall into this category?
Where does Sony draw the line?
Most people who have answered the dreaded "How do I remove vocals?" posts over on the Sound Forge forum would be kicked out. Including myself.
Most of those replies were embarrassing to say the least.
Embarrass is an easy category to fall into.
Touchy area...
We have the ignore this user option, or we can read his posts and marvel at the fact that so much "lack of tact" could be embodied in one person.

¢¢

...heh.SF users get the vocal cut question, too, huh? At the Cool Edit/Audition forum, that's the most annoying groaner.