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Videoon 1/25/2023
32-Bit Video Renders Brightness Flickering
I'm going to try to see if I can replicate this on several other machines, and esp with footage rendered directly out of Vegas. Those RX100 files are from an old camera, so this may otherwise not be worth pursuing...
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Videoon 1/25/2023
32-Bit Video Renders Brightness Flickering
This issue persists in the current build (326) -- the source media is a Sony XAVC 8-bit clip from my RX100 M5. I think it's directly related to the Color Curves fx (the plugin, not the curves in the color grading panel). The CC fx may also be responsible for the brightness flickering I'm seeing working with 10-bit HEVC footage. If it would be helpful, I can post a link to a test clip from my RX100, but I believe others were already able to replicate this. If you don't want to scroll through above, the issue happens when 8-bit XAVC is placed on a timeline with project properties set to 32-bit video levels, and a CC fx is applied at the clip level.
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Videoon 1/24/2023
VEGAS Pro 20 Build 326 General Thread
Let's all turn down the volume a bit, listen to users who have legitimate complaints and Ux issues, and troubleshoot together so we can report replicable issues to the devs and get them fixed. Yeah, I've definitely had a rough day with Vegas working on a project I care about, and I got really frustrated. My apologies. I'll try to edit things down.
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Videoon 1/24/2023
VEGAS Pro 20 Build 326 General Thread
Looks like something's up with the context menus in the Project Media bin. When I right-click, most of the menu items are greyed-out, including some really useful ones, like "create proxies" and "remove from project and delete files" I've identified the issue here -- in this case it was the way I was clicking through. I was right-clicking directly on a clip on the timeline, choosing "select in project media" AND THEN immediately right-clicking on the selected clip in the media bin. I did not realize that by doing that in this version of Vegas, the clip in the media bin gets deselected, hence the greyed-out menus. So I guess you can call this user error... ...although, if you do the same procedure in good old Sony Vegas 9, the clips do not deselect, which saves you an extra click or two. Maybe worth thinking about, developer people?
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Videoon 1/24/2023
VEGAS Pro 20 Build 326 General Thread
Woe unto you who tries to edit 10 bit HEVC in 32 bit mode. Lots of weird brightness shifts all over the place. No way to use this right now. :( (edited out this part -- I was getting very frustrated here)
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Videoon 1/24/2023
VEGAS Pro 20 Build 326 General Thread
Go to Project Media bin and click on any video clip that also present on the timeline (ie, part of the project). Right-click on the clip in the media bin (not the timeline). Many of the menu items are greyed out.
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Videoon 1/24/2023
Vegas Pro not opening when I click it in the taskbar, Start Menu, etc.
I experimented a bit just now with open close Vegas and observing the task manager, and sure enough - sometimes Vegas is still in memory even tough Vegas was shut down. If you then shut down your PC, windows will save the memory to disk (Virtual Memory Page File) to be able to start up faster. In one particular instance it was still in memory and then after a few seconds it disappeared from memory. I am guessing that following scenario can happen: a person who has finished working with Vegas closes Vegas, and shuts down his pc as his next action. The following day he starts up his PC and wants to open Vegas, but he cannot as the memory with a Vegas process still in it; is re-loaded in memory from the startup... As a workaround you can clear the Virtual Memory Page File every time you shut down your PC (there is a setting in windows registry or vis Group policy) to do that automatically. This defies the purpose of faster boot however. Or you can delete the page file if you have enough memory (not recommended, as some programs may crash without it). This sounds like a promising explanation esp for those of us who rarely close the program normally (because it crashes frequently). Thank you for this.
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Videoon 1/24/2023
VEGAS Pro 20 Build 326 General Thread
Looks like something's up with the context menus in the Project Media bin. When I right-click, most of the menu items are greyed-out, including some really useful ones, like "create proxies" and "remove from project and delete files"
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Videoon 1/23/2023
VEGAS Pro 20 Build 326 General Thread
impressive list of crashes bugs and broken features for me so far. Maybe start with getting Vegas to reliably open when you click the icon, guys? I mean that much, at least ?? What happened to Frosty's vaunted beta testers?
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Videoon 1/20/2023
VEGAS Pro 20: Next update PREVIEW
If you only had a clue... And yet the bugs remain. I'm not the only one trying to send you this message. I don't know why you (and those like you) are so totally deaf to this. Assuming the Magix team is making a good-faith effort to resolve these stability issues, I am suggesting your current testing system could use some improvement. That's all. If indeed Vegas has a long and profitable future, no one will be happier than me.
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Videoon 1/19/2023
VEGAS Pro 20: Next update PREVIEW
Need to focus on fixing these consistent crashes @james-daniels That has been a major focus of the team over the last few months. The beta testers have indicated that the application is quite stable right now, so we hope that experience is the same for all of our customers when this update is released. @VEGASDerek, This isn't your first try at a major Vegas build, and I assume you've had a similar beta test program in place in the past. Maybe it's time to take a look at the design of your beta testing program? I do wonder if you have incentives in place that result in you getting less than complete feedback--or prevent you from discovering errors that inexperienced or atypical users are likely to generate. My concern would be that you might have a trusted cadre of beta testers who all tend to be older (in age), highly experienced Vegas users who don't tend to do new things, ingest new formats, or click on things randomly. They probably have older, stable hardware. Maybe try to get more adversarial people into your testing program? Increase the diversity, so to speak? I really hope you guys pull this thing together. You are competing directly with Resolve, which is free, and which works. It really just works. I do find myself thinking that sand in the hourglass is going to run out on you sooner rather than later. :(
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Videoon 1/18/2023
VP20 Audio Track Group Muting Bug
@ALO, I cannot duplicate what you are seeing UNLESS I leave all of the tracks selected after grouping. If I click on any track to select only that track, the mute button only happens on that one track. That was it! Thanks so much. This was driving me crazy. That selection behavior is kind of tricky. If you click into the track (a clip on the timeline, for example), and all the other tracks in the group are selected, all the tracks stay selected. The highlighting at least on my system isn't 100% clear either. I'll file this in the beware category -- but thank you for the help!
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Videoon 1/18/2023
Sony FX30 XAVC-HS Broken in 32-Bit Mode
It doesn't affect all systems though, my laptop has no such problem with any of these files in 32-bit video, full or ACES mode. Does your laptop have a GPU enabled? I use a Dell XPS Win 11 with an NVIDIA GPU.
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Videoon 1/18/2023
Sony FX30 XAVC-HS Broken in 32-Bit Mode
Are you setting it up to display properly in 32 bit mode? otherwise it will not. You need to know the color space the footage was shot in (SLog?)... then you right click on the media, go to properties, and under color space you select the proper color space, and then your levels should display properly. Frosty XAVS HS is a new HEVC-based codec from Sony -- not a Picture Profile mode or an ACES workflow
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Videoon 1/18/2023
Sony FX30 XAVC-HS Broken in 32-Bit Mode
Also seeing Canon R5 10-bit 4:2:2 HEVC All-I footage is broken in 32-bit modes on my desktop (RTX 2080/ UHD 770) Roger thanks for confirming! Don't know what was happening with the .exe prompt, but glad no harm resulted!
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Videoon 1/17/2023
Sony FX30 XAVC-HS Broken in 32-Bit Mode
Absolutely nothing "broken" here. Displays identically in 8- or 32- bit projects. There is no 10-bit mode for Vegas. Did you get the one download of the original 4:2:2 HS clip off the share link, or were you using the recompressed forum attachment?
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Videoon 1/17/2023
Sony FX30 XAVC-HS Broken in 32-Bit Mode
okay, allegedly this will be available for 30 days: https://ufile.io/ohnge6cw it's a short clip of my backyard so maybe not a masterpiece of cinematography, but I do highly recommend the camera.
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Videoon 1/17/2023
Sony FX30 XAVC-HS Broken in 32-Bit Mode
Sorry Roger I was hoping the forum could handle a short upload. Try this link: https://file.io/1LFgYm5SOkPO
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Videoon 1/17/2023
Sony FX30 XAVC-HS Broken in 32-Bit Mode
sorry I misspoke above -- the codec does not display correctly in Vegas' 32-bit (video levels) mode. There is no 10-bit mode for Vegas. This clip is SonyFX 30 XAVC HS 10-bit 4:2:2
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Videoon 1/14/2023
Suggestions For Ways VEGAS Can Improve
make it into a "it just works" kind of app. There are probably a lot of us out there who would be brand ambassadors but feel it's impossible to recommend because it's so unreliable. We all know how often we click that save button, and no amount of "what are your system specs and have you updated your drivers..." can erase that reality. I would guess truly fixing Vegas would involve rebuilding it from the ground up using a modern programming language & best practices. Personally, I think Vegas is worth it. It's a testimony to the quality of the Vegas timeline editing experience (vs competitors) that I still put up with it given all the frustrations!
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Videoon 1/10/2023
Windows 11 22H2
Yes @VEGASDerek could you make it compatible in the sense that it would reliably start when I click the program icon?
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Videoon 12/12/2022
Vegas Pro 20 incorrectly renders in ProRes codecs.
If Vegas says it renders to ProRes, it ought to create compliant ProRes. There are still a lot of clients out there who demand that format. Tomasz, have you tried to render out your files in Davinci Resolve to see if you get the same artifacts you're observing in Vegas?
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Videoon 12/12/2022
32-Bit Video Renders Brightness Flickering
Interesting, does it also happen with color curves in the color grading panel? Roger what a great question! I just checked and it does *not* happen w/curves in the grading panel. So there's a workaround. For me, the flickering occurs even just dragging the fx color curves handle around (and changing the contrast levels). I am using an NVIDIA GPU (RTX 3050 Ti Laptop) which is quite powerful.
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Videoon 12/11/2022
32-Bit Video Renders Brightness Flickering
I got some rx100 XAVC-S 8-bit footage from a friend, and the behavior is not evident in 8-bit projects, at least with that sample. Yes -- not happening when project properties set to 8-bit. This is some kind of interaction with 8-bit XAVC, the color curves fx, and the 32-bit video levels project setting. I'll keep playing with other 8-bit formats to see if I can get it to happen with something other than clips from my Sony cameras.
ALO
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