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Audioon 2/20/2007
poll: how many people use HUI?
A better poll, sadly, would be: how many people use Vegas purely for audio? :| Ben
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Audioon 2/1/2007
V7 spotting
Yeah I read the review Geoff, and also noted that mistake! The glaring thing for me though was more the fact that they totally missed out on portraying that Vegas is no longer being seriously developed on the audio side by Sony. So, for an audio newbie, it'd be a pretty poor investment I think. More significantly, they didn't mention Vegas' serious mixing and routing shortcomings, which have lately for me made the app increasingly difficult to work with for complex projects. The only real shortcomings they discussed was the lack of MIDI, not even mentioning ReWire. They missed a lot of tricks. You know, I'm not sure I've ever read a negative review in Sound on Sound... Ben
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Audioon 11/30/2006
Any news on pan to buss problem?
Thanks for the explanation Jesse - hopefully this will help Matt and the team. As far as I remember, this change happened with Vegas 5. It was talked about a lot on this forum at the time and none of us could fathom why it had occurred; we never received an explanation from Sony. To anyone working seriously with audio, the current pan>auxes/busses behaviour makes no sense. It should ideally work as you state. While we're talking routing, the ability to send from busses (rather than just assign) to assignable/aux FX and other busses is sorely needed. When you need to apply reverb to your drum buss, for example. This could work the same as normal track sends, with the send faders available on the bus tracks view in the trackpane window, perhaps. Folder tracks, but preferable with a fader, unlike in ACID, would also be great. I also think your other suggestions would be great Jesse. Whether we're ever actually going to see any further audio improvements in Vegas, however, unfortunately remains to be seen. I do hope so. Ben
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Audioon 11/29/2006
Any news on pan to buss problem?
Useless. Either they're being deliberately obtuse (very possible) or the support guy's just plain ignorant of audio and this long standing problem (very possible). Either way, sadly it increasingly feels like the audio side of Vegas is dead. You tried REAPER? Ben
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Audioon 11/22/2006
American Idol Extreme Music Creator
:) Made me laugh. Nice post Ike. Sadly, oh so true... Ben
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Audioon 10/20/2006
Is Vegas REALLY robust enough for audio work?
That's an old, tiresome argument deusx, which for some reason people often like to wheel out when others call for things to be improved upon. If everybody carried on like that, we'd still be listening to music from wax cylinders. Why are we even editing digitally when we managed perfectly fine cutting together 1/4" tape? Gimme a break... Seriously, what you say is totally irrelevant. I don't know what you do for a living, but the fact is that most contemporary music today *is* recorded on 50 plus tracks, with lots of processing, etc, etc. Ben
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Videoon 9/12/2006
My Impressions of V7....
Eh? I think it's you having problems with your maths - Vegas 6 was released in May 2005. Give or take then, that's 18 months. And bear in mind the core development time are likely to have finished the code (bar bugs) a good deal of time before that and had probably already moved on to think about Vegas 7. Ben
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Audioon 9/12/2006
Very poor update
>>> Is this what u can come up with after 1 year Sony <<< Nope. They had an astonishing 18 months to come up with this!!
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Audioon 9/12/2006
Very poor update
>>> But they clearly don't expect existing Vegas audio users to buy version 7 <<< I'm not sure existing video users are going to buy it either. Plainly, Sony are either lazy or just don't get it. Maybe they think we're all mad?
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Audioon 9/12/2006
Very poor update
What seems insane is that, by the looks of it, there are very few new video features to speak of either. A quick glance at the video forum will confirm that the guys there are very unhappy too. I really don't know what Sony are thinking. In 2006 you can't release a so-called professional app with so little new features, after apparently 18 months worth of development, and expect your user base to be impressed. I get the feeling there's overwhelming disappointment with Vegas 7. But, hey, I'm sure PSP rendering will come in really handy :| Ben
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Videoon 9/12/2006
Vegas 8 Wishlist
>> They only put new features in new versions. (I think a couple of times rule has been broken). << Yep, the rule has been broken this time - they decided not to put any new features in the new version either.
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Videoon 9/12/2006
My Impressions of V7....
I'm pretty much an audio guy (and who probably know how peeved we've all been with Vegas recently) but overall I'm just shocked that this is, apparently, 18 months worth of work. Seriously. Normally it's us audio guys complaining about a lack of new relavent features in a release, but I see very little here for video people either. Certainly nothing to inspire any awe. Mainly workflow enhancements that many others developers would just throw into a point release. Overall I'm just extremely disappointed at the progress - it feels to me like Sony have kind of given up. Sadly, Ben
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Audioon 8/31/2006
Master and Bus in the Tracks View
Press B.
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Audioon 8/25/2006
Shafted again.
My my. This is the first *ever* post I've read from a Sony Media employee, actually being frank and honest about the future (or lack of for us audio guys) of Vegas. Thanks for being candid, Matt. In a way though it opens up more questions that answers. Like, why weren't us many Vegas audio-only users clearly told about this change of direction a couple of years ago? And why was the absorption of Vegas features into ACID 6 only half-baked? Why haven't the broken 'audio features' of Vegas 6 been fixed, like the incomplete implementation of the VST spec? I know I'm banging my head against a brick wall here... but that just gives you some idea of our frustrations. When ACID feels and functions like Vegas on the audio side, with of course all the existing ACID stuff running smoothly as well, together with all our other feature requests (eg improving the very basic mixer routing), you'll have some very satisfied users. Ben
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Audioon 4/5/2006
Vegas 7 wishlist
>>> Some kind of group list. I have tons of different groups sometimes and whould like to find one, Simply click in the group list of the specific group and everything in the group gets highlighted. Ofcourse it should be possible to rename the groups in the grouplist. <<< Very nice idea, Mangooo. Would be really cool to also see this with tracks, so you could group tracks together in a similar way, resulting in ganged faders, etc. And this could all be viewable on a dockable window :) B
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Audioon 4/2/2006
Can Vegas 6 handle PDC?
Yep it does, though doesn't seem to handle PDC very well, as far as I understand, large latencies are involved - this seems to create gapping and other problems. Examples I know of are SIR and the UAD plugins. Ben
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Audioon 3/30/2006
Vegas 7 wishlist
I completely know what you're saying Ziggly but, well, you've gotta try! I've invested way too much time into this software to give up now. But, yeah, I do realise that it's a battle we seem to have sadly lost a long time ago and, yes, it's clear Peter's ignoring me! I certainly am into REAPER and you'll find plenty of posts and suggestions from me on the forum (I'm Ben Zero there). Justin's listened to quite a lot of my requests, mainly on the editing side, which have subsequently been implemented. There's a few things about the software I'm not yet comfortable with, including the routing paradigm which funnily enough is the opposite of Vegas - arguably it's a little too complex! The structure's fine but I'm not yet 100% convinced by the usability of the routing for my purposes, in that I don't find it very quick and intuitive. Would be great if the sends were always exposed on the UI. And work pressures and deadlines mean I'm nowhere near ready to leave the software I'm comfortable with yet - Vegas. Anyway... I didn't go to NAMM, I was talking about the London, UK Sounds Expo. To be honest, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, I didn't find Jenn particularly helpful; she became quite defensive when I mentioned the routing shortcomings of ACID and Vegas, and when I asked if ACID 6 was to have *all* of Vegas' editing features. I'd need that to be able to jump ship to ACID. I do hold out a distant hope that, in time, Vegas will catch up with the features I've mentioned above. After all, one of Vegas' USP's is that it has incredible audio functionality for a video app [sh*t - is it a video app? :P]. I'm sure Vegas' competitors on the video side will sooner or later want to catch up with its audio features and that's when, maybe, audio in Vegas will get a push. I know, it's a long-shot... As for The Other Place, thanks - I've just seen that post and hopefully will get around to replying soon! Cheers B
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Audioon 3/29/2006
Vegas 7 wishlist
But Hulk, scrubbing, as us audio guys understand it, involves varying the speed of the audio as you move the reels or, in this case, cursor. In your example the audio remains the same speed. Your example describes more what I'd call 'digital shuttling'. I'm confused! B
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Audioon 3/29/2006
Vegas 7 wishlist
Well you know you can move the cursor without losing your time selection by clicking above the ruler, right? Do you also know that backspace cycles through previous, 'lost', time selections? HTH B
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Audioon 3/29/2006
Vegas 7 wishlist
Nope, I wouldn't like that one bit. Would change Vegas' whole editing paradigm. B
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Audioon 3/29/2006
Vegas 7 wishlist
Peter - I know you can't comment on future releases but I'd value your opinion on my feature suggestions. Specifically, is there any reason the pan routing changes and bus send features I suggest can't make it into Vegas 7? I'm very much looking forward to ACID 6, and know some Vegas-like functionality has made its way in, but right now I'm unconvinced that it will be able to do everything Vegas can, edit-wise. And, ironically, after seeing ACID 6 in London at Sound Expo I was disappointed to see that you couldn't send from busses to the auxes here either. In fact, Jenn from Sony actually took a while to understand what I was asking for and why I would need it! Hmm... Ben
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Audioon 3/28/2006
Vegas 7 wishlist
Realistic audio features I'd like to see in Vegas 7: - Please fix the track pan to busses/auxes issue. This really, really needs to be addressed. - The ability to send to an aux from a bus. Much needed functionality IMO. Currently, for example, grouping vocals to a bus becomes very clumsy when you have compression and EQ on that bus and want to send it to a reverb or delay. Obviously we'd also want this to be automatable - this could be accessed from the bus tracks pane and so with the same UI as regular tracks; no additional UI elements needed! - Folder tracks - Track fader grouping/ganging - FULL VST implementation, including sending tempo information to plugs. - FX freeze. I don't believe any of these requests are over ambitious but represent areas in which Vegas really needs to catch up. Of course I'd also like: - Basic MIDI implementation. - ReWire But I've got a feeling it's going to be a long time before we see those, especially the former. I do though think that implementing ReWire would make a lot of disgruntled Vegas audio users very happy indeed. Thanks for listening Ben
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Videoon 2/16/2006
Sony, v6d still has file path bug
Yep. Also, every file dialog <should> have the 'Most Recently Used' folder drop-down. Makes life a lot easier. Ben
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Audioon 2/2/2006
Johnnyroy defeats Mothra! Export Script!!!
"It will automatically pick up all the templates for Microsoft WAV files that you make and it ships with several 24-bit templates. You should be seeing those as well as any of your own if they are wave templates." Thanks - my bad... didn't realise - works great! B
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