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Videoon 8/21/2016
Best render settings to produce Blu-ray
A little OT, but lately I've started to shoot 24fps 4k with my Panasonic LX100 rather than 25fps since the 50i template loses a lot of sharpness from the footage. But the actual question is: which should I choose in DVDA for bluray render - 1920x1080 24p or 23.976p 16:9? I think the precise frame rate is 23.976. Thanks.
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Videoon 2/5/2016
Does Sony Vegas Pro 13 work with Windows 10?
What about Pro13 + Win10 and NewTitler Pro3, Mercalli V4, & NewBlue plugins? What about certain graphic cards such as my gtx580? Any issues? Better safe than sorry...
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Videoon 1/24/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
Thanks Warper
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Videoon 1/24/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
I did the first time around (see previous reply) but that changed the tempo too slow. So just for the fun of it, I left it unaltered and rendered out to 24p. Not good -too blurry, especially in motion.
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Videoon 1/24/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
Ok, you win some, you lose some. I'll be wiser next time and shoot 24p. Thanks for this learning curve. Back to square one but I did learn a lot all the same. BTW, I tried rendering the 25p mxf file to 24p without changing the duration of the clip or project fps and the result was sharper than the interlacef render where there was little motion (about one frame behind the interlaced version, though) but much blurrier in motion. DVDA accepts the file without recompression but I'll need to run some more comparative tests with different types of scenes. Most likely I'll just settle for 50i
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Videoon 1/24/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
I did the first song. The four-minute MXF file is 6.29GB (the interlaced render was 862mb). I changed project properties to 4k 16:9 24p (4096x2304; 23,976fps). The original was 3840x2160 so should I have chosen the QFHD 24p template instead (with a matching resolution)? I matched the clip with the former frame count. Problem: the song is considerably slower in tempo, adding 10 seconds added to its length, an altogether different song really. What am I doing wrong?
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Videoon 1/24/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
Just to make sure, My 2:18hr-project has 25i material here and there. Does that matter? Render out to 25p all the same? Render each song out to 25p separately (the whole concert being top much for my computer to handle) and then import the XAVC-Intra files back into the project, then change clip duration for all of them etc.? What worries me is whether I will be able to synch the audio...
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Videoon 1/23/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
Thanks, I'll try that.
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Videoon 1/23/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
OldSmoke: I tried your tips on converting 25 to 24 in Vegas but that seemed like a lot of re-editing and truth be told, I probably didn't do it right. Should playback be dropped to 0.960? I changed the ruler in the properties to absolute frames and changed playback to 0.960. When I dragged the clip, the frame count didn't change (the frame count reads in the info next to the resolution of the clip, right?). Are you now suggesting some other way of converting a 25p render to 24p?
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Videoon 1/23/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
Thanks. At least that makes life easier. I'll run some tests on how 24p synchs up with 48kHz audio. BTW, I ran a few comparative tests, and it appears it's better to let Vegas do the p to i conversion rather than let DVDA recompress but that was to be expected. Not a big difference but still. Thanks everybody for your help. Maybe one day 4k will no longer have to be downreszed.
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Videoon 1/23/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
" There may be a tool to do that losslessly." Do let me know if know of any. I just wonder why the 1920x1080 25p or 50p option doesn't exist. I mean, 25p or 50p is more common for high-end consumer pocket cameras than 25i or 50p, right? At least as common as 24p? Does it have to do with television standards or something? In any case, what's the use of 50p or 25p if you can't really realize the camera's full potential? Lastly, for future reference, as I intend to continue to make blurays of my concert footage for personal use (much nicer to view them on a big screen thru my home theater than on a computer screen), would you say it'd be better to shoot 24p rather than 25p?
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Videoon 1/23/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
Thanks for the tips. I tried the straightforward approach but I think I will just count my blessings and see if DVDA recompression produces better results than p to i rendering. In addition to my own 25p material, I also have some 25i material to fill in gaps in the footage, all perfectly synched up with the audio. Resynching it all seems like a nightmare. But DVDA is just one dvd authoring tool. Are there any that would allow 25p without recompression? I guess there is a reason for the lack if a 25p/50p bluray template there?
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Videoon 1/22/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
Ok, thanks. I'll try that. This is 2:18 hrs of foorage, so we'll see how that works out. As for the audio, someone on an LX100 FB group said that 24p is the way to go as it syncs up with the standard 48kHz sampling rate, so maybe it'll be just fine.
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Videoon 1/22/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
I am sorry but what does that, "lossless intermediate", mean in practise in tge case of a 4k project?
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Videoon 1/22/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
Thanks Warper for your bag of tricks. I'll give them a shot and compare the results. The easiest is of course allowing DVDA to recompress 25p, which it allows but requires to be recompressed. It will be interesting to see if the result is sharper than a p to i conversion in Vegas. Changing playback rate is trickier as I have done about a half hour of the footage already and changing the length of a clip means adjusting keyframes, reapplying stabilization (Mercalli is a nightmare to work with -very erratic) etc. And how do I adjust the playback of the audio to sync with the new frame rate? The audio is not from the camera and it just happens to sync well with 25fps.
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Videoon 1/22/2016
25P 4k footage render out to BD interlaced only?
I had resampling disabled already. But how do you slow it down? Lower playback rate? If so, by how much? Will it still sync well with the audio (this one's 24-bit 48kHz zoom H1). Will DVDA then accept it as 24p? I tried rendering it with the 24p template, which DVDA accepts, and it may have come out sharper but at the expense of a lot of jitter in motion. So what's the bag of tricks here?
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Videoon 11/8/2015
Batch Processing Events with Mercalli 4 Plug-in
Malowz, Isn't sensor speed the only thing it actually sets by itself? Should I not trust tge reading it returns but alter it? How do I know what the right speed is?
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Videoon 11/8/2015
Batch Processing Events with Mercalli 4 Plug-in
The cmos fixer is not only extremely slow on Pro13 but also produces awful distortions and judder especially in strongly backlit (stage lights) concert footage. Anybody with similar experiences?
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Videoon 11/7/2015
4k crop and pan
nice work Glen :)
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Videoon 11/7/2015
4k crop and pan
John, The ability in v13 to import m2v files into Vegas and rerender without compression takes the heat off from having to upgrade my outdated system right now. Sure render times would diminish and all that but I would still get the job done and that's the main thing. Better hold my 4k horses till prices come down.
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Videoon 11/6/2015
4k crop and pan
Oldsmoke, Thanks for the comments on zooming and straight cuts. After a second look, I found several places where a straight cut would've have been better. I guess I have not shaken off the role the audience taper, zooming in when I wouldn't have to. I'll certainly revisit this and see how I could be a little more radical here. Certainly plenty of fertile ground forthat. What makes straight cuts a little challenging is the fact that often you are having to negotiate with the actual zooming in and out in the footage itself. Sometimes a straight cut at the end of a zooming in doesn't fit the song. But great feedback.
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Videoon 11/5/2015
4k crop and pan
ritsmer, How do you change the file type from .m2v to .mpg, since simply writing .mpg at the end of the filename in Windows doesn't actually change the file type - at least v12 still does not recognize the file as a viable import. Probably another obvious question but ... hey, the damage is done :). (P.S. I like the obscene language filter here: only st*pid people use the word st*pid, so instead of ***** you now have "obvious")
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Videoon 11/4/2015
Batch Processing Events with Mercalli 4 Plug-in
"To install, just copy the dll and png into the application extension folder under Program Data" I am using Vegas Pro12. Can't seem to find this folder - or did you mean Mercalli - no such folder there either.
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Videoon 11/4/2015
4k crop and pan
John, thanks for the reply. I am currently using Vegas Pro 12, which apparently does not accept m2v elementary files. So I am now testing the trial version of v13 and following your instructions, I was able to import a m2v file into the Project and rerender it using the same template and apparently it did not recompress it (stating "no recompression required"). But on closer scrutiny, the new m2v file (6 seconds, MainConcept MPEG-2 is smaller (22 892 833 bytes) than the original (23 082 67bytes) - how's that possible if no compression has taken place? Sorry, maybe this is obvious to you, but... As I will have to upgrade a lot of hardware (processor to a 6-core one, no?, a new motherboard with more RAM capabilities, etc), what other benefits would Pro13 bring over Pro12 with regard to 4k editing? In other words, as the word on the street is Vegas might be going out the window, is it worth upgrading? One thing I noticed about the trial version of v13: Auto preview of 4k material runs much smoother than on v12... Mind you, I am just a hobbyist (in case you haven't figured that out yet ;-)), and all I am asking for is a powerful enough machine and NLE to do blurays of 2-3-hour concert footage, perhaps multicam, too. (Not much,eh?)
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