Ultimate S won't go away

@ernie-tamminga said: "Do y'all know of any plugin, or method, to erase all the markers in a project, the way Ultimate S used to let me do?" Edit Details, one of the most underrated tool of Vegas. I have Edit Details window as part of my default layout. Useful to so many tasks.

So Confused, and ready to throw in the towel.

This thread is derailed...

How do I make scripts for VEGAS Pro? (I have zero knowledge)

How do I make scripts for VEGAS Pro? (I have zero knowledge)

Did not happen It did, but maybe not the way you think @m3lquixd

Should I accept the Windows 11 Upgrade? Yes/No?

@Illusion Thanks for the link. It's certainly not for the faint-hearted. For anyone wanting the context menu but not willing to follow the procedure, copy this to a text file (notepad) with .bat extension, then run it. reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f  pause  

Should I accept the Windows 11 Upgrade? Yes/No?

@Illusion Thanks for the link. It's certainly not for the faint-hearted. Nope. But I like my restored right-click menu

Should I accept the Windows 11 Upgrade? Yes/No?

I have Win 11 on a laptop I purchased last summer. I have installed Vegas versions 12-20 without issue. The ONE thing I don't like about it is the Explorer context menu. Rather than the usual lines such as Cut, Copy, Paste, etc , they have been replaced by icons at the top of dialog which is OK after you get used to it. However, since I often want to launch MediaInfo, I now have to go to an additional "More Options" dialog from the initial context dialog. Not a showstopper, but kind of a pain. Since I usually use Directory Opus rather than Explorer anyway, it's not a big problem--just a tiny gnat.   @wwaag, @Grazie, here is how to fix it: https://allthings.how/how-to-show-more-options-by-default-in-windows-11-file-explorer/

Rendering audio track

Render Options of the Render Dialog

Script to copy volume envelope within track group.

Happy Otter Spcrits has something similar as part of the free tools. https://tools4vegas.com/copy-volume-envelope/

Vegas Pro 20 (326) Rendering bug

I had a similar issue a few times when I was rendering and the destination drive was a spinning drive that was about to fail. Changing the destination to a SSD and all was good. That was my experience, might not be your issue.

importing video with more than 2 audio tracks separatly into Vegas 20

When checked, I got 8 audio channels imported, which matches the mediainfo of the file. General Complete name                            : D:\1\20210703_A7C0134.MXF Format                                   : MXF Format version                           : 1.3 Format profile                           : OP-1a Format settings                          : Closed / Complete File size                                : 952 MiB Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Overall bit rate                         : 469 Mb/s Package name                             : 20210703_A7C0134 Encoded date                             : 2023-02-01 23:11:05.000 Writing application                      : Sony Catalyst 2022.1 Writing library                          : Sony MXF Development Kit (Win32) 4.20.0.153.1 Video ID                                       : 2 Format                                   : AVC Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec Format profile                           : High 4:2:2 Intra@L5.1 Format settings, CABAC                   : No Format settings, GOP                     : N=1 Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102106001-0401020201323001 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate                                 : 460 Mb/s Maximum bit rate                         : 480 Mb/s Width                                    : 3 840 pixels Height                                   : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9 Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Standard                                 : Component Color space                              : YUV Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2 Bit depth                                : 10 bits Scan type                                : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.851 Stream size                              : 933 MiB (98%) Color range                              : Limited Color primaries                          : BT.709 Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709 Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709 Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Audio #1 ID                                       : 3 Format                                   : PCM Format settings                          : Little Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES) Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate mode                            : Constant Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 1 channel Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS (1601.6 SPF) Bit depth                                : 24 bits Stream size                              : 2.34 MiB (0%) Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Locked                                   : Yes Audio #2 ID                                       : 4 Format                                   : PCM Format settings                          : Little Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES) Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate mode                            : Constant Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 1 channel Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS (1601.6 SPF) Bit depth                                : 24 bits Stream size                              : 2.34 MiB (0%) Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Locked                                   : Yes Audio #3 ID                                       : 5 Format                                   : PCM Format settings                          : Little Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES) Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate mode                            : Constant Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 1 channel Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS (1601.6 SPF) Bit depth                                : 24 bits Stream size                              : 2.34 MiB (0%) Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Locked                                   : Yes Audio #4 ID                                       : 6 Format                                   : PCM Format settings                          : Little Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES) Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate mode                            : Constant Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 1 channel Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS (1601.6 SPF) Bit depth                                : 24 bits Stream size                              : 2.34 MiB (0%) Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Locked                                   : Yes Audio #5 ID                                       : 7 Format                                   : PCM Format settings                          : Little Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES) Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate mode                            : Constant Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 1 channel Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS (1601.6 SPF) Bit depth                                : 24 bits Stream size                              : 2.34 MiB (0%) Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Locked                                   : Yes Audio #6 ID                                       : 8 Format                                   : PCM Format settings                          : Little Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES) Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate mode                            : Constant Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 1 channel Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS (1601.6 SPF) Bit depth                                : 24 bits Stream size                              : 2.34 MiB (0%) Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Locked                                   : Yes Audio #7 ID                                       : 9 Format                                   : PCM Format settings                          : Little Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES) Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate mode                            : Constant Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 1 channel Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS (1601.6 SPF) Bit depth                                : 24 bits Stream size                              : 2.34 MiB (0%) Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Locked                                   : Yes Audio #8 ID                                       : 10 Format                                   : PCM Format settings                          : Little Format settings, wrapping mode           : Frame (AES) Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060300-0402020101000000 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Bit rate mode                            : Constant Bit rate                                 : 1 152 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 1 channel Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS (1601.6 SPF) Bit depth                                : 24 bits Stream size                              : 2.34 MiB (0%) Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 Locked                                   : Yes Other #1 ID                                       : 1-Material Type                                     : Time code Format                                   : MXF TC Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Time code of first frame                 : 19:26:35;16 Time code of last frame                  : 19:26:52;15 Time code settings                       : Material Package Time code, stripped                      : Yes Other #2 ID                                       : 1-Source Type                                     : Time code Format                                   : MXF TC Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Time code of first frame                 : 19:26:35;16 Time code of last frame                  : 19:26:52;15 Time code settings                       : Source Package Time code, stripped                      : Yes Other #3 ID                                       : 11 Format                                   : Acquisition Metadata Muxing mode                              : Ancillary data / RDD 18 Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS Delay_SDTI                               : 69995459 CaptureGammaEquation_FirstFrame          : BT.709 Other #4 Type                                     : Time code Format                                   : SMPTE TC Muxing mode                              : SDTI Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Time code of first frame                 : 19:26:35;16  

importing video with more than 2 audio tracks separatly into Vegas 20

Maybe you can start by this. The default is unchecked.  

Vegas 20.0 Crashing while rendering

I know it is not the solution to the root cause of the problem, just a workaround to get you going. As your video is 10h long, I would render it in pieces and join them together at the end, without re-encoding. Here is what I would do 1- Define regions on your timeline, 1 per hour or whatever chunk you know will render to the end. Next region must start where the previous finishes. To create a region you do a time selection on the timeline and press R. 2- Select first region (right click on green marker) 3- Render video only by ensuring "Render Loop Region" is ticked and untick Include Audio from render template. Give each region a sequential name (Region1.mp4, Region2,mp4) 4- Render all your regions this way. 5- Collapse the loop region, or select your entire timeline or untick "Render Loop Region" and render the audio only using Wave. Select the sample rate/width to match your timeline. 6- Merge your video using Shutter Encoder https://www.shutterencoder.com/en/. Drop your video files in the file box. Select Merge from the choose function. This will lossless stitch the files together without re-encoding. 7- Mux audio in using Shutter Encoder. Clear Shutter encoder from previous step. Drop the merge video file and the audio file for your entire project. Choose the function Replace Audio. Select the desired audio codec (AAC in my case). This will encode the audio from uncompressed PCM to AAC and will mux it with video in a single file.   If ever you have to retouch your 10h video file in the future, this workflow will allow you to re-encode only the portion that you edit without having to re-render the whole 10h.  

Your preferred 32bit Full Range Pixel Format Workflow / Pipeline ?

True, but this is the gamma of video anyway. And if you use the 32bit floating point (full range) with a gamma of 2,222 (video), then the media properties of the footage MUST be set to full. With undefined or limited, clipping in the luminance takes place. So to avoid this riks, the recommendation is to stick to video levels. I am working with 32FR all the time with a mix of GoPro 4k (full range) and Sony XAVC (limited range) and I don't see the problem you describe. My GoPro footage is automatically set to Full by Vegas and my Sony is also set automatically to Limited by Vegas. The Limited range footage (16-235) gets expanded to 0-255 when using Full Range timeline. 16-255 might be a different story. For this, I would still use FR timeline, mark it Full as you said but use a Level FX at media level to trim the low end.

Your preferred 32bit Full Range Pixel Format Workflow / Pipeline ?

Coming back to this discussion, a more systematic test approach has shown following results - for the question, if we can switch between 8bit and 32bit settings (without transformation), and without color shift. So mainly for the purpose to render out the footage in 32bit instead of 8bit: one can switch between "Legacy 8-bit (video levels) and "32-bit floating point (video levels)". No transformation should be applied No color shift seems to take place then No clipping seemt to take place then Media settings of the media properties can be full, limited or undefined. So do not use the project settings 8bit full and 32-bit floating point full, since here the color shift takes place (even with disabled view transformation). Please test this. There is no color shift if you use 2.222 compositing gamma in Full Range.

Vegas Pro 20 Crashes on import of .MTS File

Look at point C here: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/ Provide Mediainfo and a sample

AI FX in VP20 build 326 - working great for some

Tested on my system. Total render time: 3:18 GPU is not utilized much. @Illusion Thanks for the submission. Never did a google form before and hope it worked smoothly for you. No issue there.

AI FX in VP20 build 326 - working great for some

Tested on my system. Total render time: 3:18 GPU is not utilized much.

.MXF impossible to import on VEGAS PRO 20 / 326 BUILD

They are related to bitrate. Here is a Class 480 with an actual bitrate of 469 Mb/s. General Complete name                            : F:\Renders\20210703_A7C0134.MXF Format                                   : MXF Format version                           : 1.3 Format profile                           : OP-1a Format settings                          : Closed / Complete File size                                : 952 MiB Duration                                 : 17 s 17 ms Overall bit rate                         : 469 Mb/s Package name                             : 20210703_A7C0134 Encoded date                             : 2023-02-01 23:11:05.000 Writing application                      : Sony Catalyst 2022.1 Writing library                          : Sony MXF Development Kit (Win32) 4.20.0.153.1 And a Class 300 Format                                   : MXF Format version                           : 1.3 Format profile                           : OP-1a Format settings                          : Closed / Complete File size                                : 847 MiB Duration                                 : 24 s 24 ms Overall bit rate                         : 296 Mb/s Package name                             : 20210715_A7C0313 Encoded date                             : 2023-01-29 20:17:12.000 Writing application                      : Sony Catalyst 2022.1 Writing library                          : Sony MXF Development Kit (Win32) 4.20.0.153.1  

.MXF impossible to import on VEGAS PRO 20 / 326 BUILD

I use Catalyst Browse to stabilize my Sony footage all the time and I can import them no problem in B326. Here are the settings I use I will try Class 480 to see Edit: Class 480 works on my side. However, I normally use Class 300 and have a smooth playback with Good(half) preview. With Class 480, I need to lower to Preview(Auto) to get 29.97 fps smooth playback. System in signature.

Your preferred 32bit Full Range Pixel Format Workflow / Pipeline ?

  Ah -- you're using Vokoder. That explains how you're getting full-range instead of video levels from your 32-FR renders. Like you, I prefer to work on the Vegas timeline in 0-255 for obvious reasons, but I always have to deliver to video levels, so adding the output levels fx doesn't bother me (when needed). With 8-bit footage, I prefer to conform it myself, because a lot of the time I like the extra headroom. As I am probably now shifting to 10-bit log, I will have to learn how to do everything all over again. :) @ALO Using Voukoder has nothing to do with that. You can use any template and choose Full or Limited at render time, regardless of the timeline. Again, no need for output level fx. Contrary to Voukoder however, Magix templates will properly mark the output file as Full or Limited depending on your choice in the project tab of the render dialog, see below General Complete name                            : F:\Renders\Untitled.mp4 Format                                   : MPEG-4 Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2 Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42) File size                                : 333 KiB Duration                                 : 10 s 777 ms Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable Overall bit rate                         : 253 kb/s Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-02-01 23:03:44 Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-02-01 23:03:44 Video ID                                       : 1 Format                                   : HEVC Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile                           : Main@L5@High Codec ID                                 : hvc1 Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding Duration                                 : 10 s 777 ms Bit rate                                 : 60.6 kb/s Width                                    : 3 840 pixels Height                                   : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9 Frame rate mode                          : Constant Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space                              : YUV Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 Bit depth                                : 8 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.000 Stream size                              : 79.8 KiB (24%) Language                                 : English Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-02-01 23:03:45 Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-02-01 23:03:45 Color range                              : Full Codec configuration box                  : hvcC Audio ID                                       : 2 Format                                   : AAC LC Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2 Duration                                 : 10 s 773 ms Bit rate mode                            : Variable Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 2 channels Channel layout                           : L R Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode                         : Lossy Stream size                              : 248 KiB (75%) Language                                 : English Encoded date                             : UTC 2023-02-01 23:03:45 Tagged date                              : UTC 2023-02-01 23:03:45  

Your preferred 32bit Full Range Pixel Format Workflow / Pipeline ?

Here is a quick demonstration of the benefit of 32b FR vs 8b FR. This is the original footage with severe backlighting, in a 8b FR timeline. This is GoPro ProTune Flat Native. WB and Input LUT not applied yet. Now using the CGP to trim the input levels to bring back the histogram to 0, still in 8b FR. Notice the banding in the histogram. Switching to 32b FR, Gamma 2.222, View transform off. Banding is gone. Now with input LUT applied (Leeming LUT Pro), CGP White Balance, and my personal touch to correct the severe backlighting, still 32b FR. If I switch back to 8b FR, notice the banding in the histogram and the visible banding in the preview, mainly in the sky, which is not visible in 32b FR.

Your preferred 32bit Full Range Pixel Format Workflow / Pipeline ?

I only do the rough cut in 8b FR. Once done, I switch to 32b FR, Gamma 2.222, View transform to off. My PC is able to playback 32b FR without issues for the projects I am doing. My delivery format is HEVC in full range. I no longer mess with Limited range. So my question is, if you use 32-FR with view transform off and gamma set to video, is there any difference between that and 32-VL plus a computer-to-studio fx for output rendering? Edit -- actually I see you don't even need the levels correction -- you want to output to FR, which 32-video levels will do for you automatically (provided you conform your footage as you edit on the timeline). And wait a minute -- doesn't 32-FR output video levels to HEVC? With 32b FR timeline, you simply have to choose Color Space at render time (as @Howard-Vigorita pointed out just above) . I never mess with semw or computer to studio fx at all. Simple streamlined workflow. Edit: I don't need to conform anything to 32FR, Vegas does it for me. This is my GoPro footage, notice the Color Space, Vegas sets that based on the file metadata. And my A7C which is limited, and properly marked in metadata. Vegas expands it automatically to FR. Any stills will be set to Full range as well. I never use Video Levels. For me, 0 is black and 255 is white, period.   My delivery files. I use Voukoder HEVC. General Complete name                            : W:\2021\Ouest\New set\Partie 9_0009 vk.mp4 Format                                   : MPEG-4 Format profile                           : Base Media Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/mp41) File size                                : 10.7 GiB Duration                                 : 21 min 20 s Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable Overall bit rate                         : 71.4 Mb/s Writing application                      : Voukoder (VEGAS) Video ID                                       : 1 Format                                   : HEVC Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile                           : Main@L5@High Codec ID                                 : hev1 Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding Duration                                 : 21 min 20 s Bit rate                                 : 71.1 Mb/s Width                                    : 3 840 pixels Height                                   : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9 Frame rate mode                          : Constant Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space                              : YUV Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 Bit depth                                : 8 bits Scan type                                : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.286 Stream size                              : 10.6 GiB (100%) Color range                              : Full Codec configuration box                  : hvcC Audio ID                                       : 2 Format                                   : AAC LC Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2 Duration                                 : 21 min 20 s Source duration                          : 21 min 20 s Bit rate mode                            : Variable Nominal bit rate                         : 314 kb/s Maximum bit rate                         : 320 kb/s Channel(s)                               : 2 channels Channel layout                           : L R Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode                         : Lossy Source stream size                       : 48.0 MiB (0%) Default                                  : Yes Alternate group                          : 1 Voukoder does not set the Color Range metadata in the output file by default. You have to tell it to do that using set_params.

Your preferred 32bit Full Range Pixel Format Workflow / Pipeline ?

I only do the rough cut in 8b FR. Once done, I switch to 32b FR, Gamma 2.222, View transform to off. My PC is able to playback 32b FR without issues for the projects I am doing. My delivery format is HEVC in full range. I no longer mess with Limited range.