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Videoon 8/28/2019
Support for insta360 one x
@Sirio I understand, thanks for the update. 360 render working and I think 4192*2112 is still bigger than you tubes 4k streaming, so this is still a good setting for online use.
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Videoon 8/28/2019
Support for insta360 one x
@Sirio Thanks for the 360 info. Just trying out V17 edits with insta 360 one x. Got rid of the nadir spot with the info above - thank you! But my final rendered file says it's 4192 by 2112 not 5760 - I guess that's becuase I'm outputting 16:9 from insta360 studio. What are you rendering with for best 360 output (e.g. for you tube 360 playback)? I've only got the MAGIX HEVC/AAC codec to work for you tube uploads. With 'allow source to adjust frame rate' selected, to keep the 5.7k footage. Then VBR max 48, avg 28 and RC mode VBR high quality. Test video:
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Videoon 8/22/2019
Should I be upgrading to a Ryzen or Intel processor?
Save your cash! Try an AMD 1700 + NVIDIA GTX 1060ti (gb) + 32gb fast RAM. With V17 that combination allows me to edit and preview 4k files with no lag and a nice fast render. It still crashes from time to time, but I think that would happen with any combination. The AMD 1700 doesn't draw much power and comes with an adequate cooler, it's slightly older so it's cheaper than Ryzen 2 or 3 but great for video editing.
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Videoon 8/11/2019
Please help! Upgraded to VP 17, and it crashes upon opening
Just sharing my vp17 upgrade experience as it sounds similar to the original post on this thread, but I do now have it stable and working well. On initial install v17 took ages to load complex v16 projects and crashed before I could do much. I have Rysen 1700, Nvidia 1060ti 6gb and 32gb system RAM. I film with Sony A7 cameras, so all my files are XAVC-S, mixture of 4k@24fps and 1080@60fps. Here's what I did to get it under control: Turned off thumbnails (that made the biggest difference) Switched File IO to NVDEC (that allows me to play 4k files in preview with no lag for the first time!) Installed latest studio driver for the GPU (1060ti 6gb) Reduced Dynamic RAM to 300 (down from 1600). Essential to get stable playback. I tried disabling so4.dll but that made playback slightly worse (didn't test overall stability) so I've kept it enabled. When I first opened a v16 project in v17 it did take a long time to settle - I think that was mostly the thumbnail issue, but possibly there's some other file checking going on in the background (that's only a guess). It's great to edit with now. Still crashes about once per hour, but that's similar to V16. And the smooth playback of 4k clips is great. My dream of a budget self build PC that can edit 4k video without having to transcode clips is finally working. Yay, vegas! I also use vegas on another PC that only has a 1050ti 2tb GPU, and that won't cope with NVDEC playback. So I'd guess a 1060ti 6GB is the best budget GPU to get that working.
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Videoon 8/8/2019
Vegas Pro 17: first impressions ?
@VEGASPascal Hi, thanks for reply. I'm using a 1060ti with 6gb so it shouldn't be low on resource. I tried reducing dynamic ram preview to 400 (down from 1600) and that seems to have sorted it. I can play 4k Sony clips with no lag and it doesn't dump my filter plugins and no red screen. If I increase dynamic RAM then it dumps the plugins and gets unstable. No idea how they're connected, but impressed if this keeps working - saved me buying a Ryzen 3 CPU!!
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Videoon 8/7/2019
Vegas Pro 17: first impressions ?
Have you updated to the latest creator (not game ready) driver from nvidia? @fr0sty I think the discussion has moved on, but thought I'd update this for info (and thanks again for your help). Installed studio drivers for my 1060ti and was still getting the same problem of film convert turning off by itself and playback crashing. So I reduced dynamic RAM preview to 400 (from 1600) and that seems to fix it. So I can (fingers crossed) now get non laggy 4k playback in the timeline for Sony A7 clips. Yay vegas 17!! My PC has 32gb so I don't understand why the dynamic RAM would affect it, poss there's a problem with my RAM, or it's doing some heavy caching in the background.
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Videoon 8/7/2019
Vegas Pro 17: first impressions ?
@fr0sty Tried turning off fx on all video tracks (inc Film Convert) but same problem. Plays great for about 30s - no lag on 4k clips, great - but then I get just a red screen in the preview window and no video. Start and stop doesn't bring it back, just red screen. Audio still playing OK. But then it crashes after another 30s.
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Videoon 8/7/2019
Vegas Pro 17: first impressions ?
@fr0sty Thanks so much for replying and your expert info - very helpful. Yes, just trying the thumbnail turn off and the new NVDEC option (I have Intel 1060ti). Thumbnails off definitely speeds up the load time and hang time. The NVDEC option seems to allow non laggy playback of 4k clips which would be amazing, but it keeps turning off my plugins (I use Film Convert) and then crashing. I'll try a PC restart and have another go...
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Videoon 8/7/2019
Vegas Pro 17: first impressions ?
@VEGASHeman Hi. You mention changing the File IO setting in VP17 to the NVDEC option. Would that effect playback of clips from a Sony camera (I haven't re-encoded the clips, just trying to play them in the timeline)? I have INTEL 1060ti GPU. Just trying it now, and it seems I can finally play 4k clips on the timeline with no lag when it moves from clip to clip - that would be wonderful. But it's very unstable. It keeps turning off my Film Convert plugin, so I lose all the colour correction and then it crashes. Hopeless for a commercial edit. But it's a start!
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Videoon 8/7/2019
Vegas Pro 17: first impressions ?
I've given up and gone back to VP16 edit. My PC is AMD 1700 + 1060ti + 32gb RAM. Tried working on wedding edit timelines created in VP16 and then resaved in VP17. Mix of 4k and 60p Sony A7iii clips. Timeline took much longer to open than in VP16 (even after several saves) and became much more unstable than VP16 has ever been (which is fairly unstable). It crashed continuosly. I don't have time to bug fix now, as I have delivery deadlines. So I've gone back to VP16. Am I missing a setting for the new HW acceleration? Puzzled why it should take longer to load the timeline - as if there's a memory problem somewhere.
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Videoon 8/7/2019
Upgrade price
I think you are mixing up $ and £! The first upgrade price quoted in emails (in the pre-order stage a few weeks ago) was $199 (which converts to about £164). I ordered that thinking it was a good deal. But when 17 pro was actually released, it was available for £149 (in the UK at least) and now with a free Hit Film Transitions. That I think explains the change you're seeing. I'm very annoyed I paid the higher amount when I pre-ordered in good faith. If I'd waited and ignored the 'buy now' emails, I'd have saved money and got the free transitions. I tried to get a refund from Magix but have been told that's not possible as more than 14 days have elapsed since I ordered the software. Which seems very unfair for pre-ordering software.
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Videoon 3/13/2019
OFX Preset location
@j-v thanks. How do you tell Vegas where to find local presets if you move them from the default location?
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Videoon 3/13/2019
OFX Preset location
Thanks. I understand your point, but sadly my local support can't change my pc settings, so I'm stuck with this problem. However, it's my copy of Vegas, so I think telling it where to look for ofx presets would be another solution.. Maybe!
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Videoon 1/11/2019
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5X 352-Bit will Rendering Speed up?
@OldSmoke Disabling So4 I should have said. Corrected. Have also been looking at Catalyst Browse. Useful programme, thanks for the tip.
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Videoon 1/11/2019
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5X 352-Bit will Rendering Speed up?
Just to update this for anyone following in the future. I tried disabling So4, and it appears to give a slight performance improvement on timeline playback, but crucially it's (so far) much more stable. I'm running Vegas Pro 16 with Sony 4k XAVCS clips on a too hot office PC. Before the swap it crashed every 15 mins. Since I swapped, it hasn't crashed. Possibly coincidence, but well worth trying if you're having crashing vegas problems.
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Videoon 1/8/2019
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5X 352-Bit will Rendering Speed up?
@OldSmoke Thanks for info, I'm trying to get my head around all this as fast as I can. Sorry for any daft questions. Is there any loss of quality going to XAVC-I? Would I need to use them as proxies? I only ask because I do a lot of stabilising during the edit and that seems potentially tricky with proxy working. .
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Videoon 1/8/2019
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5X 352-Bit will Rendering Speed up?
@Former user Hi, thanks for speedy response and testing. Are those 4k XAVCS test clips ( I think so from looking back at the thread). Good to know that something out there can play lag free 4k on vegas! The i9 is quite a long way up the budget path from the 1700 (same for 1060 to 1080GPU ), so it looks like I'll need to be happy with my current set up for now.
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Videoon 1/8/2019
Vegas Pro 16 4k edit rig build
@William-Ward Hi. Just wondering if you built your system and how it's working out for you, if you don't mind me asking? I tried for a bargain upgrade and went with Ryzen 1700 + gtx1060. it's pretty good, but still stutters on 4k playback going from clip to clip (it's fine within a clip). Trying to work out if CPU or GPU upgrade will actually make any difference!
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Videoon 1/8/2019
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5X 352-Bit will Rendering Speed up?
@Former user Have just rebuilt my PC to try and get better timeline playback for 4k XAVCS footage. Very interested in this discussion. I noticed from your PC specs that you upgraded a few months back. Do you mind me asking if your timeline tests where done before or after the upgrade? And if after the ugprade, which components made the most difference? I've gone for an AMD 1700 + GTX 1060 6 gb as the best budget system I could manage. It is much better than my old 2600k based system, but still drops frame rate as it passes from one 4k clip to the next. Overclocking the 1700 helped a little, but nothing else made any difference (faster memory, preview quality etc). So I'm assuming it's the faster CPU in your set up that makes most difference. Thanks for any info!
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Videoon 1/8/2019
what cpu i get for vegas pro 15 -AMD Ryzen 7 1700x vs intel i7-8700k
I know this thread is a few months old, but it's still the best debate I can find on the old CPU v GPU choice. I have just rebuilt my PC going from an intel i7 2600k with gtx 1050ti to a Ryzen 7 1700 + gtx 1060. I'm using an m2 ssd for project and video files (SSD not NVME) and 16gb 3200mhz memory. Running Vegas 16 pro. Bang for buck, this seems a really, really good value system to me. I edit mainly 4k XAVCS files from Sony A7 cameras, using Film Convert plugin and some sharpening. General use and file playback is greatly improved. Rendering speed is good - 24 mins for a 19 minute wedding to 1080p with lots of 4k. I tried Magix AVC and Sony AVC but the difference was marginal (both with GPU enabled). My only concern is that I STILL get lag on the timeline when it plays from one 4k clip to another. Individual 4k files play great, but the stutter and lag is there when it moves to the next clip. I originally had a gtx 1050ti card, upgrading to the 1060 didn't help. I originally had 2100mhz memory. Upgrading to 3200mhz didn't help. Overclocking the CPU (I managed 3.8mhz stable) helped a bit but didn't solve it. Using preview quality in the preview window didn't make any difference. Turning off film convert doesn't help. I know I could use proxies, but I'd much rather not have all that hassle. Reading various other threads, I can't see a definitive upgrade solution to get rid of the lag between 4k clips. It looks like only a CPU upgrade would fix this, but has anyone had experience of a CPU upgrade that fixed the lag?
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Videoon 10/17/2018
Video stabiliser glitches
Hi, I finally found a solution. If I reduce the smoothing magnitude first to something low like 0.2 and then put it back up to what I need - 2.5 etc, then it stops the glitching. Must be something to do with the reset bug that others have been seeing. Really, really glad to find a fix. For many of my shots the vegas plugin is good enough, just need for mercalli for walking or more.
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Videoon 9/21/2018
Video stabiliser glitches
Hi. The new stabiliser. Settings are just the default. I make a subclip so it only works on the bit of the clip I need, and then click analyse. It defaults to Accurate and Translation settings. I also get a funny smear at the top of the screen on pans. All the glitches vanish if I use prodad stand alone software.
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Videoon 9/20/2018
Video stabiliser glitches
Hi. Thanks for reply! Tried setting to 1 thread just now, no improvement sadly. Also tried turning off GPU in the video tab, but that didn't help.
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