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Messageson 8/30/2017
[Release] VEGAS Pro 15 – Inspiration Meets Productivity
I'm using MOTU 2408 Mk3 and MOTU 24 i/o PCIe card on a Sweetwater i7 Creation Station PC. I also tried it using my Focurite Scarlett18i8 USB interface and both of these interfaces on a different computer. I've tried MOTU PCI ASIO, Windows Classic Wave Driver and ASIO4ALL. All stutter during playback, so bad you cannot mix. Nothing short of NOT using VST plugins in subgroup busses or the master buss works. I can render and it is fine so it has something to do with 64bit Vegas using VST plugin in busses and master. Same song on Vegas 9 32bit work perfectly.
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Messageson 8/30/2017
[Release] VEGAS Pro 15 – Inspiration Meets Productivity
Downloaded the V15 demo. Opened audio project and it still stutters on playback with any VST plug-ins in a buss or master channel. I have had this problem with all 64 bit versions back to V9. Can an audio person out there trying Vegas 15 for audio please confirm this is so before I finally move on to another DAW, I would appreciate it. I've sent in tickets, videos, Magic has confirmed and said it will be taken care of in future releases since V13. Luckily, this time I didn't upgrade, but tried the demo first.
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Audioon 7/3/2017
Audio glitches after upgrading to Vegas 13 64 Bit
I requested a support ticket and sent the videos. On June 26 I received email from Magix. "I have just confirmed that this is a logged bug and will most likely be fixed in a later version. Thank you for your information." Most likely, hmmmmm. I installed Build 270 but problem still exists if anyone was wondering. And the hope continues.
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Audioon 6/15/2017
Audio glitches after upgrading to Vegas 13 64 Bit
Hi Nick, here are a couple quick captured videos. This first one shows Vegas 14 build 252 running an average audio session at 44.1kHz 24 bit having a lot of trouble playing back with VST plug-is in the sub and master busses. Then as video plays I start removing the VST plug-ins and you'll hear the audio start to clean up as I do. As you will hear it is not possible to mix with this kind of playback sound. The computer is a Sweetwater Creation Station top of the line i7 running a MOTU 424pcie card and 2408 Mark III interface, Windows 10. In both videos I show you with the task manager the CPU, RAM and Disk usage so you can see the computer is definitely not being overloaded. Then this video is the exact same song file with the exact same VST plug-ins running in Vegas 9 32bit. In fact this video has 2 additional VST plug-ins that are power hogs and the playback is perfect. Running on the same computer. Hope this gives you a better idea as to what we are dealing with. Let me know if I can get you any more info. Michael
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Audioon 6/14/2017
Audio glitches after upgrading to Vegas 13 64 Bit
And when I get a break in the next day or so I'll video a real world 18 tracks session so you can see and hear how badly it breaks up without even resizing the screen. Then how the audio gets better and better as I remove VST plug-ins from the sub and master busses.
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Audioon 6/14/2017
Audio glitches after upgrading to Vegas 13 64 Bit
I had trouble uploading the 1 minute video to this page so here is a link to the video on YouTube If this doesn't work please let me know and I'll try uploading here again. Please note, I have since discovered that it occurs only when adding VST plug-ins as master effects, to busses or master buss NOT individual tracks. They seem to work fine there. But a typical mix session can easily have 4 or 5 master effects, 5 or more group busses with several plug-ins each and always a couple plug-ins on the master buss. Again we are talking VST plug-ins NOT the plug-ins that come with Vegas. As you add more plug-ins the worse the problem gets. A typical session stutters constantly without resizing the screen or touching any parameter. I could make a quick video of this happening if that would help you. Changing or maxing out the buffer improves it only slightly but still unusable to mix. Also I don't know if this helps but I can render a big mix with playback stuttering to a stereo file and it plays fine. And again, if I go back to my trusty Vegas 9 32bit these sessions play perfectly using almost zero CPU, memory and hard disk resources. Michael
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Audioon 6/12/2017
Audio glitches after upgrading to Vegas 13 64 Bit
Thank you Philippe, I still have hope but I also got this message October 4, 2016 but it goes back as far as Vegas 9-64bit for me. I even made a very short video on how to reproduce the problem using a single VST plugin on master or sub-master buss on V13 and V14. I'm sure Magix is overwhelmed with bug fixes that piled up from Sony days and keeping Vegas current with ever changing video needs. And I realize that us audio guys are probably a very small part of their revenue and these fixes require very intense hours of code writing and expense. I've had to jump ship to another DAW in the mean time as I make my living from tracking, mixing, mastering music and an occasional music video. I miss and love how easy it is to work with Vegas so I will come back if this ever gets resolved. Michael McDonald
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Audioon 4/25/2017
Audio glitches after upgrading to Vegas 13 64 Bit
I've had this problem since Vegas 9 64bit, I am still running Vegas 9 32bit perfectly. When I upgraded to a top end Sweetwater Creation Station I upgraded to Vegas 13 and found it still had the stutter problem in playback. After months of back and forth with then Sony nothing was resolved and my issue was labeled resolved. When Magix took over I had hope, upgraded to 14 Pro and now at build 252 it still has the problem. I made a short video showing the problem (any single VST plug-in added to a sub buss or master buss with the stuttering getting worse as you added more VST plug-ins. Increasing the buffers helps only slightly on a screaming fast machine). Magix emailed me in November 2016 and said they had recreated the issue and "This is now entered into our backlog to be resolved in a future application update. Thank you for reporting this issue". Since recording is my fulltime gig and have been on Vegas since the it's first introduction by Sonic Foundry I love how fast and at home I am with this program and now that I'm producing music videos too it has just made sense to stay here. But like many above it might be time to move to a new DAW. Michael McDonald
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Audioon 9/27/2016
Audio glitches after upgrading to Vegas 13 64 Bit
I am so glad to know I am not the only person with this problem. I too have had the same glitching audio problem since switching from Vegas 9 32bit to Vegas 13 64bit and also now in the demo of Vegas 14 64bit. I am professional, mostly audio guy with only 10% of my income from video. I have large track counts with lots of plug-ings using all legal up to date software. I have used Vegas since day one and love its ease of use. My new computer is a Sweetwater Creation Station i7. It hardly breaks a sweat with 20 tracks and several dozen VST plug-ins running. Here is what I have found with Vegas 13 and now 14. After trying all the above thread tweaks, at Sony's suggestions, with buffers, drivers, and even different audio interfaces with only slight improvement in stuttering I have narrowed it down to this. My system runs fine with many VST plug-ins on each individual track but as soon as I drop even one VST plug-in on the master bus the stuttering starts and gets worse with each plug-ing added to it or each new sub bus with VST plug-ins added to it. BTW: I can render a stuttering song and it renders perfect but it is imposable to mix while it is stuttering. And as a reminder, these stuttering songs play back perfectly on Vegas 9 32bit using the same plug-ins. I can even put up a video of this problem in action if this would help the Magix team to track down this problem which keeps me from using Vegas 14 or any 64bit version for that mater. And I can see in this thread that Sony was able to recreate it and said they would work on it. I would like to take advantage of the special upgrade offer from 13 to 14 price but reluctant to fork out more money for another version with this same problem. Thank you anyone for any work on this issue. Michael McDonald
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