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Videoon 8/27/2018
VEGAS Pro 15 Update 6 (build 384) - General Discussion
VEGAS Pro 15 Update 6 (build 384) has been released. Please give us your feedback in this thread. We want to keep you informed about as much as we can and have your feedback, even though this is not a big update. If you already have build 384 or earlier installed, there is no need to uninstall it. The build 384 will overwrite your installation and retain your settings. Your computer will need to be online for activation after the update.If you are installing VEGAS Pro 15 for the first time, it is generally better to install using a VEGAS Pro download manager. See here for details & links.Official announcement with Patch Notes VEGAS Pro 15 (build 384) installer Previous general discussion thread You asked for our feedback, well here is mine. Your update (384) was worthless. Never addressed or resolved the render issues I've been reporting that your failed customer support failed to address or properly respond to. You refused to grant my refund and as a legacy Vegas owner I have lost all faith in Vegas Pro and Magix. I spent the cash to purchase the Suite version of VP15 and it cost me a job and a nick on my business rep because of VP15's render flaws. Your lack of a fix, your lack of customer support, and the painful waste of cash testing you "Beta" VP15 has me very sore with Magix. LOL, and now you skip on past us and try throwing in VP16 which is probably just as broken as VP15. Have lost my faith in you. Thanks for nothing.
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Videoon 8/27/2018
Vegas Pro 16 ?
Vegas15 people were promised another revision. I would hope that's still happening. Vegas15 has been a very beta software experience & to make users pay for a bug fixed version by releasing VP16 instead would be a PR nightmare. I would advise Vegas not to do that, it would drive some users away forever. Yup! Agree whole heatedly. VP15 never worked right, magix never fixed it, their customer support was the worst ever, the role out of of 15 was a massive flop and I was forced to move on to another program because of all of this. Magix refused to grant a refund as well and VP15 is worthless to me. Why would anyone stay with them after an experience like this? Sad part is, I've been a Vegas Pro editor and supporter since Vegas was invented.
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Videoon 8/27/2018
Re-Disappointed
It's good to hear honest comments. Vegas Pro 15 was a serious disappointment to me, never functioned correctly, customer support was the worst ever and after being a Vegas supporter since Sonic Foundry days, I had to give up completely on Vegas and moved to Resolve 15. I wasted hard cash on Vegas 15 for commercial work, have the Suite version, and the errors in the renders on VP15 caused me a job and a neg reviews. Oddly, Premier (which I hate) and Resolve 15 (which has now become my go to editor and is rock solid) work on my system without error. I was sad to leave Vegas behind, and pissed that I was refused a refund and lost hard cash testing VP15's failures. Magix failed miserably here. I keep my interest though and sadly see VP16 as another gimmick laden failure. Magix needs to make this right, fix their real problems, and offer solutions that actually work and are useful for a cost that is competitive and realistic to the current market. Oddly, the full version of Resolve does far more than Vegas Pro 16 for less than the cost of the upgrade to the Suite version and their free version is unbelievable. Adobe's renting scheme is a joke. Magix has lost it's edge and VP16 doesn't appear to bring it back.
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Videoon 7/20/2018
VEGAS 16 hint
@Trensharo Disagree. Vegas is in a good place as an NLE, and is getting better all the time. For me, it's productive, stable and editing is quick. Every time I look at other NLE's I come back with: no way that's going to work for me. I am sad to disagree with you. I have been using Vegas (VideoFactory) since Sonic foundry created it. I had such hopes for Vegas Pro 15. I own the suite version. But Magix let me down, Vegas Pro 15 is unreliable and plagued with faults and errors that Magix has failed to address or fix. The unstable and consistently flawed results from Vegas Pro 15 cost me a customer and money and damage to my business. I have had the worst experience with their customer support. I had to move on the Resolve and am now editing 99% of my projects in their "Free" version of Resolve 15 Beta and am impressed, will be buying the Full version of resolve rather than investing another penny in Vegas and all because Vegas 15 failed and Magix didn't even care. Not how you grow a product with such a legacy customer as I am. I see nothing in Vegas 16 to catch my attention back and no correspondence from Magix to make up or even to address their many failures. I used to be like you, no way another editor could replace what I do in Vegas. Not anymore.
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Videoon 1/26/2018
VP15 261 - stutery video and random clip glitches after AVC render
This might help. At least worth a look through before digging deeper: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-why-does-my-rendered-video-look-bad-troubleshooting-quality--103361/ Thanks Nick, had already followed this thread you referenced. Didn't help.Basic project settings are: 1920x1080, progressive, 29.97fps, progressive download enabled, tried VBR and CBR, tried 2 pass on and off, tried deblocking on and off, audio is 320, best, and default color.
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Videoon 9/27/2017
DJI Osmo media file error - Possible to recover?
I don't remember the details, but try to create a new file in VLC.
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Videoon 9/27/2017
DJI Osmo media file error - Possible to recover?
Try this: http://djifix.live555.com/
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Videoon 9/4/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
The conversation with proDAD confirms only, that the bundled Mercalli version works only with VP14 as it was promised. That you have not purchased the rights that it works with VP15 too. That the rights to work VP15 must be purchased, will not come for free, and that they will come up with an offer for that. All together that is nothing new. You will only have the decision to accept their additional offer and purchase it, or reject it and purchase it not. Up to everybody. The only points that are unknown by now is the price and if this additional license is restricted to VP15 So, Wolfgang S. gets to keep ranting his rhetoric with no comments from the moderators? Wolfgang S is biased, negative to the bad situation proDADand Magix has left us customers in. His opinion is offensive and he continues to offer nothing new or helpful. He speaks as if he were an authority on this matter. The matter is not as Wolfgang S. states, it is only what he wishes and the issue is still undecided.
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Videoon 9/2/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
Wolfgang S - your attitude is exactly what companies like ProDAD want everyone to think like. It helps them win by playing dirty and wouldn't life just be better for ProDAD and Magix if everyone just coward like dumb sheep and bought into the scam?!? You seem to work for ProDAD, you definatley support them and the flawed system ProDAD and Magix are trying to sell. As if something has to be "material" to fit into the same rules that honor, truth, respect, and integrity fit into. LOL. No matter the excuses that others, like you, push on us customers that are being wronged here, what Magix and what ProDAD is doing is wrong and the customers are smart enough to know and remember. The word is out there... keep adding to the negative outcome of it all. Trust me, others are looking at what is being said by who here and they hear it loud and clear.
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Videoon 9/2/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
For me this whole dispute is like I bought a car (model VegasPro 14, made Magix) last year with a special introduction offer, a sophisticated roof rack (Mercalli 4). Now, this year, I bought a new car (model VegasPro 15, also made Magix) and this sophisticated roof rack, that I got for a special price with my former car, doesn't fit on my new car, unfortunately. What can I do, keep my old car besides my new car, for those drives when I need a roof rack. Or should I sell my old car together with the roof rack and with that money, buy the universal roof rack (Mercalli 4 SAL) that fits on all models of Magix? Anybody interested in buying a one year old car with a nice roof rack? Only serious biddings please!!! 3POINT - you actually didn't get it right, the sophisticated roof rack you mention will fit on your new model car.... it's just that the maker of the rack refuses to give you permission to use it on the new car and would rather you pay them again to keep using the same thing you already paid for except they (ProDAD in this case) is calling it an "upgrade!" But through all the B.S. others are trying to justify this thru lawyer excuses using words like "it's not tangible property," or "intellectual rights," and "Licensing Rights." You see, Mercalli 4 plug-in for Vegas Pro 14 actually works just fine on Vegas Pro 15, no modification or recoding required. It's a "mother may I" Licensing fiasco preventing it from being use through a watermark.BTW, with Vegas Pro 15 it isn't like you bought a new car. The core code is all still the same more or less, it's just a spiffed up version. Kinda like getting a new paint job and a new stereo. So it's more like the roof rack manufacture is telling you that you have to remove the roof rack because the car you own was modified a little.
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Videoon 9/1/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
I think you have as much luck as I did trying to convince Adobe to give up on their software rental scheme. Go have a beer and chill out :) I've got my beer right in front of me ;-) But here's this, you failed with Adobe because you tried to convince Adobe... you should have tried convincing the blinded masses who pay Adobe their rent for life fee scam (and I'm with you too on how stupid that scam is). I'm talking to the masses here, those affected just like me. I hope Magix and ProDAD both read this and listen - it's their chance to make things right by their customers and win back our support. I'll chill when the deed is done. So pass another beer please. :-)
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Videoon 9/1/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
I found a kind of workaround if you have also VPro 14 with that stabilizer. Analyse first the events in 14 and open that project in VPro 15 for rendering.I did not try to edit the project further in 15. My work around is so silly it hurts. I made another copy of my project and then deleted all media that did not require stabilization. Then I export from VegasPro15 each individual clip as a separate video. Then I stabilize each clip in VegasPro14 using Mercalli 4 (which otherwise would work just fine in VegasPro15 if not for the license B.S.), save and re-import into the original project in Vegas Pro 15. Heck, with that work flow I might as well stabilize in Warp Stabilizer in AE then re-import. And this is what happens when companies like Magix fails to consider the long term effects and the needs of it's customers. How much is this upgrade and what really are we getting for our money?
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Videoon 9/1/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
Agreed (a GREED! hahaha). Our old stereo or tires or seat covers should fit if we just bought the same car, just a year newer. SERIOUSLY doubt there was enough code change to warrant needing to RECODE the plugin. There is no recoding required at all. All that happened is the license fails to recognize the new version and places a watermark. ProDAD thinks it's entitled to more money for existing users to keep using the same product - unchanged.
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Videoon 9/1/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
You guys keep adding irrelevant details. Code changes and car tires have nothing to do with it. It's a licensing issue. Now, I can totally sympathize with your position and I wish you good luck convincing Magix/ProDad to change the way they do things. But there is an important message that should not get lost: As of right now, if you buy Vegas 15 upgrades with bundles, then you can not assume the additional software to work with the next version. So, for example, the Boris 3d unit, will very likely not be licensed for Vegas 16. There is nothing that says it will, and in fact it is listed as "Free software, part of THIS OFFER ". Maybe it ought not to be that way but my advice is BUYER BEWARE. So basically, Kevinermark, what you're saying that we the buyer with all the power of our all mighty dollar have no chance of swaying the bad decisions riddled full of Lawyer B.S. and licensing mumbo jumbo? The details you speak of are as relevant as the power of the license. Unethical business practices will always try to dominate the buyer. Intelligent buyers, with options, will always sway the businesses with their power of spending their money else where. And there are some pretty competitive options out there... DaVinci Resolve - Free, and Premier to name two big competitors. Who's really at the mercy of who here? I'll tell you this, many have walked away from Vegas Pro 15 just over this issue alone. You can try to remove the players responsible from blame under the protection of "the license agreement made me do it" excuse.But the customers here are not stupid (well, most at least). Vegas Pro and all it's functionality (and lack thereof) is not a one time kind of use and toss tool. As of the last edition, Magix (in this case) tried to fix some serious lackings by adding to their program and it appears they did so badly and at the cost of the productivity of their long term and devoted customers! Bad move no matter how you spell it out. I don't know how Magix or ProDAD could find a better way to loose customers and show those remaining how little they actually care then in stunts like this... kind of counters the hard work they did trying to keep Vegas Pro alive - wouldn't you think?
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Videoon 9/1/2017
VEGAS Pro 15 build 177 General Discussion
@skyml : Have you tried the SEARCH facility at the top of FX list? As to why MAGIX has done what you/we want, better ask them. Grazie, Yes, the search really does little in speeding the work flow process. Scrolling thru a long list or typing in a search box pretty much slows the roll no matter what. But a condensed folder at the Front of the list with what we want and need, with a simple click and drag, isn't that hard to include and makes the point of a GUI actually functional and efficient. And Magix has been asked... just like I've been asking for the "freeze frame" option in a right click like we got in ver 15 (been asking for this since Ulead Media Studio Pro died). Perhaps others will see the benefit and put the pressure on Magix.
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Videoon 9/1/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
Well, here we are on Day three since the release and major flop for Magix and ProDAD on providing VP15 upgraders any solution - good or bad - for stabilizing our footage.First off, ProDAD telling us Mercalli 4 would be an "upgrade" to keep using with VP15 from VP14 is a bad joke (the argument and interpretations are vast)... it's NOT an upgrade if nothing in Mercalli 4 changed. But to remove Mercalli 4 as an option is Bad for Magix, image stabilization is important especially when Premier has Warp Stabilizer built-in. Vegas's own attempt and unimpressive "Stabilizer" (cic) is so bad that they had to entice us with ProDAD Mercalli 4 when they put out VP14 but now they ignored the issue and left us hanging with, what is by far, the most expensive upgrade to Vegas Pro yet!?!Come on Magix! PIP and instant freeze frame and a newer looking interface (color) are all fine a good but don't forget what your customers need in this tool box of video editing we use and consider what the competition has been offering for some time!I am personally 2 day now (spent one recovering from the first days crashes) into an edit on a project in the new VP15 and I need to stabilize and have no option... looks like I have to move to plan B because waiting on you and ProDAD is nothing but a let down on a major scale.
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Videoon 9/1/2017
VEGAS Pro 15 build 177 General Discussion
Meanwhile using the search bar to find a particular plug-in is as excruciatingly slow as ever. Apart from the look have yet to find any actual improvements in performance. I know I've asked for this in the past.... why didn't Magix include an option for us to create a favorites folder and move it to the top of the Video FX window so we could assemble and have easy custom access to our most used Video FX for a given project? Sorting thru the "All" list is much worse when it's full and it defaults to the "ALL" folder being open making us scroll down to each folder below it to access FX by folder.They almost had something like this for the Plug-in Manager, but that does nothing for my work flow and I access a lot of video FX when I edit (color correction/LUT's, sharpening or unsharpen mask, white balance, etc.).
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Videoon 8/31/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
This thread has gotten pretty interesting! And clearly some here don't get it. The market of free enterprise and planned obsolesces is a tough game to play in, for consumer and seller. But it appears that here, the sellers aren't playing the game right.If I purchase a car that is offered fancy tires from another manufacture to sweeten the deal then I, the consumer, might think I got a good deal. But lets say a year later the car manufacture decides to make some changes or improvements to my car (we are talking hypothetical here) for what ever reason and to sell me those improvements so that they can turn a profit and remain in business. Well, the tire manufacture doesn't get to tell me I can't keep my tires on my improved car. It is still the same car. Especially if the same tires continue to function as original. However, if the car manufacture was playing the game right, they would have modified the car so that I would have to buy new tires (say they went to 6 bolt hubs instead of 4 for safety). Well then I could see where paying for new tires might be needed and justified.Vegas Pro is Vegas Pro. Version 1-15 doesn't matter, unless the maker of Vegas (we're on our third owner now) decides to change something that makes ProDaD Mercalli (or any other bundled plug-in or addition) to need physical change to continue working then the makers are playing the game right... planned obsolesce here means something in Vegas Pro must require a physical change in it's plug-in partners to keep working. That didn't happen. ProDad made their money.. on the original bundle. This B.S. Lawyer crap doesn't change any of this. If ProDad feels entitled to more money then PrpoDAD needs to step up to the Vegas Pro table with a new and improved product. You don't have to stop driving on your bundled tires just because you got your oil changed. Mercalli 4 works as is on VP15.... the license should have automatically transferred. If ProDAD offered a better version (personally I think Warp Stabilizer sets the bar) then I might have incentive to upgrade. But moving my existing license for ProDAD Mercalli 4 (or anyother bundle that still works) is not an "upgrade" as others are trying to call it. It's the same damn plug-in that will work on the same damn editor. The only thing ProDAD has lost is their's and Magix's failure to play the game right and together... unethical practice would dictate that Magix and ProDAD would have broken their software in the change to force us (out of false necessity) to pay for them to fix it for us. So while everyone argues over whether we should be paying again to keep using the same stuff we had before, consider the truth outside of the fancy lawyer misdirection and misrepresentation to dumb us all down and take our money.
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Videoon 8/30/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
Guys, you need to keep in mind that ProDad will have only received a very small amount of money for the plug-ins bundled with Vegas 14. They (and all the other "partners") are really looking to the promotional benefits of having their software seen and are no doubt hoping to benefit from the upgrade money when new versions come along. I do think they should have a "reasonable" upgrade fee, and I do think Sony and Magix should have made these deal limitations more explicit. It is in the fine print somewhere, and many of us were aware of it. So keep this in mind when you choose Edit vs Full vs Suite. You may have limited license upgrade rights to the partner software so I suggest to read the small print. If we are moving an existing unmodified plug-in to a new upgrade of the host then why should we be expected to pay? If ProDad wants to keep in the make more money business then they need to offer a product that is new or better then what they gave as a bundle. ProDad shouldn't expect more money from us just to move a license for an unchanged plug-in to an upgraded host! That's just ridiculous!
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Videoon 8/30/2017
VEGAS Pro 15 build 177 General Discussion
I don't want the program to crush for a simple CTRL+Z - undo. :) So far I test out, no issue with 'wild' undoing. Usually it works normally but sometimes god knows why it just makes the program to crash. I can tell some situations when it's more likely to happen, but I will screen record my editing process and I will show you guys what I'm talking about in the next weeks. Examples when it's more likely to crash: 1. When I undo more times at a time. 2. In large projects (lots of sound and video tracks) when I messed a lot with the Auto Ripple tool before. 3. When I do lots of small edits, modifications and I use more tools at a time it just happens. I can't reproduce it intentionally, always different undo actions kill it. Ctrl Z caused a mega crash for me. Ruined my project that I'd been working on for hours. The project freezes at 65% every time I try to load it (after a complete reboot). Even the backup of the same project won't load... same deal - freezes at 65%. Other projects from VP14 load. This was the one and only VP15 project I had and of course it wouldn't open in VP14.HELP! Tried numerous trouble shooting options. Display preview ram to 0, disable legacy GPU support, delete cache for all prerendered video. So then I changed my windows layout to default and tried to reload and somehow the failed project file opened. So I saved it as another file. But when I closed VP15 and reloaded it it does the same thing... hangs at 65% and won't load. opened a case with Magix. Don't know what else to do. Was so close to being able to edit and render this project! VP15 is so far a major let down on reliability. Making backup copies on an external drive of such valuable works in progress is a must and never fails to save the day. Backup copies were made and are reacting the same, but other projects are not affected. There is something in this project that is different... what is unknown and I did or added nothing that was different than any other project in VP
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Videoon 8/30/2017
VEGAS Pro 15 build 177 General Discussion
I don't want the program to crush for a simple CTRL+Z - undo. :) So far I test out, no issue with 'wild' undoing. Usually it works normally but sometimes god knows why it just makes the program to crash. I can tell some situations when it's more likely to happen, but I will screen record my editing process and I will show you guys what I'm talking about in the next weeks. Examples when it's more likely to crash: 1. When I undo more times at a time. 2. In large projects (lots of sound and video tracks) when I messed a lot with the Auto Ripple tool before. 3. When I do lots of small edits, modifications and I use more tools at a time it just happens. I can't reproduce it intentionally, always different undo actions kill it. Ctrl Z caused a mega crash for me. Ruined my project that I'd been working on for hours. The project freezes at 65% every time I try to load it (after a complete reboot). Even the backup of the same project won't load... same deal - freezes at 65%. Other projects from VP14 load. This was the one and only VP15 project I had and of course it wouldn't open in VP14.HELP! Tried numerous trouble shooting options. Display preview ram to 0, disable legacy GPU support, delete cache for all prerendered video. So then I changed my windows layout to default and tried to reload and somehow the failed project file opened. So I saved it as another file. But when I closed VP15 and reloaded it it does the same thing... hangs at 65% and won't load. opened a case with Magix. Don't know what else to do. Was so close to being able to edit and render this project! VP15 is so far a major let down on reliability.
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Videoon 8/30/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
I also got a reply from ProDAD today. First off, there is no upgrade in their website that our activation codes work on. Also, we can purchase the separate plug-ins for Stabilizer and CMOS fixer for $149 each or (and this part makes no sense) we can buy the Vegas Pro Suite for $99 (full price).https://www.prodad.com/Video-Stabilization-for-Professionals/Mercalli-V4-Plugins-for-Vegas-29796,l-us.html#buyHere is my reply to ProDAD: So, let me see if I understand this correctly. We own the rights to use a product from your company on another product. That other company improves their product with an UPGRADE. Your product, which we are using, works just fine "as is" on the new upgrade. As a matter of fact, you’ve done nothing to change, modify or improve your product. And even though we are using the exact same plug-in from your company on the exact same Program we were before (albite one slightly improved on – it’s still the same program), you expect us to pay you to “move” our license to the improved version? Well that makes no sense. If ProDAD had to do something to make Mercalli 4 work on Vegas Pro 15 I could understand this. But all we’re talking about is moving our license from one version to another of Vegas Pro. Perhaps you could reconsider this, or better yet, sell us an improved version of Mercalli to use with Vegas Pro 15. That would at least justify paying for.By the way, there is no upgrade path on your website for us VP14 Mercalli 4 owners.
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Videoon 8/29/2017
VEGAS Pro 15 build 177 General Discussion
I don't want the program to crush for a simple CTRL+Z - undo. :) So far I test out, no issue with 'wild' undoing. Usually it works normally but sometimes god knows why it just makes the program to crash. I can tell some situations when it's more likely to happen, but I will screen record my editing process and I will show you guys what I'm talking about in the next weeks. Examples when it's more likely to crash: 1. When I undo more times at a time. 2. In large projects (lots of sound and video tracks) when I messed a lot with the Auto Ripple tool before. 3. When I do lots of small edits, modifications and I use more tools at a time it just happens. I can't reproduce it intentionally, always different undo actions kill it. Ctrl Z caused a mega crash for me. Ruined my project that I'd been working on for hours. The project freezes at 65% every time I try to load it (after a complete reboot). Even the backup of the same project won't load... same deal - freezes at 65%. Other projects from VP14 load. This was the one and only VP15 project I had and of course it wouldn't open in VP14.HELP!
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Videoon 8/29/2017
Vegas Pro 15 - Mercalli Stabilizer v4 missing?
Just to confirm. Reinstalling Mercalli v4 + cmos fixr plug-ins does work in Vegas 15. I did not even have to re-enter the serial number. NOTE! This is for Mercalli purchased SEPARATELY from Vegas NOT as part of a bundle. I don't know anything about the bundled version. It's the VP14 bundled version we're all having issues with. Magix just needs to build in a quality image stabilization option.
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