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musicvid10 wrote on 3/10/2010, 9:33 AM
Have this been discussed?

Many times.
Grazie wrote on 3/10/2010, 9:45 AM
Just for my own inquisitiveness, Lars, I typed in the 2 words "text" and "quality" in the Search Form, on our Forum here. It scurried back with 552 hits!

What a resource this Forum is?!

Grazie
LarsHD wrote on 3/10/2010, 10:17 AM
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TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/10/2010, 10:17 AM
I've never had an issue with Vegas' text tools. I never found them overly hard to use once I learned how to use them. I find them must easier to use compared to premiere itself.

I haven't found anything that I would actually USE that I couldn't do with Vegas alone.
rs170a wrote on 3/10/2010, 10:31 AM
I'm another user who has no complaints about the basic text tool in Vegas.
I generally make mine 2x my project size and, IMO, it stays nice & clean.
If I really want to do something a bit fancier, I use Photoshop and save the titles out in PNG format.

Mike
Grazie wrote on 3/10/2010, 11:11 AM
OK, I'll bite . .

What is it you regard as "beautiful text"? Text is just another way to communicate an emotional or factual or even a combined effect on the viewer.

Look at the text/graphic treatment of the Morgan Freeman "7" movie. That intro is both beautifully grotesque and immensely imaginatively engaging - like the movie - that I get shivers each and every time I see them.

Beautiful Text? What examples have you to give us?

Grazie
xberk wrote on 3/10/2010, 11:12 AM
I just simply can't use these most promitive text tools in Vegas.

I think you meant to say "primitive text tools". If so, did you mean that PPT has less presets or templates that make things more automatic? This may be true -- but it is far from a "primitive" tool lacking in function -- in fact, the beauty of ProType is that you can control most everything . It is so enormously flexible and powerful -- it's just a steep learning curve and a different way of doing things than on the Vegas timeline. This would mean it is "slow" to create even a simple effect while you are learning -- but once the skills are there things go much quicker and if you dream up something really complicated, chances are PPT can do it. For a long time, I didn't thing the learning curve was worth it --- but gradually I've changed my mind.

I don't agree on the quality of the text and I've never noticed a reduction of frame rate on PPT -- at least not since my i5-750 build. But I would like to see a "sync cursor" in PPT. It would help enormously in timing certain effects.

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Grazie wrote on 3/10/2010, 11:19 AM
PTT, like Black Olives, is an acquired taste. I have had to get really mentally muscular with PTT just to get done some text treatments - just to prove to myself that it could/can be a valued feature to me.

And yes, there is much I can fault it for NOT doing. . . but moving on . . . .

Grazie




LarsHD wrote on 3/10/2010, 11:27 AM
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TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/10/2010, 11:35 AM
the only plugin that I know of is Boris, and that's a lot more complex then protype. You can always buy something like Blufftitler & use that, but it's not a plugin.
rich__r wrote on 3/10/2010, 12:02 PM
I have not tried it but proDAD's Heroglyph claims to support plug-in for Vegas. Their manual indicates that Heroglyph will be added to the Media Generator tab. There is a demo version available.
LarsHD wrote on 3/10/2010, 12:16 PM
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FrigidNDEditing wrote on 3/10/2010, 1:16 PM
heroglyph can get pretty convoluded, so be warned. (they may have improved it over the years, but it used to be terrible to work in).

Dave
farss wrote on 3/10/2010, 2:19 PM
If by text quality you mean how good simple white on black text looks then two contenders are the products from Cayman Graphics and the old Inscriber system. Neither of those plug into Vegas.

I only recently discovered the impact of the Continuously Rasterize layer switch in After Effects. Normally AE does this for text layers but I had imported a PDF saved out of Word from a client's list of credits. Turning that switch on made a huge difference to the final quality.
I'm not certain how Vegas handles animated text, it should pass the text as vectors through the event and track motion controls and only rasterise after the vectors have been mapped. Probably it doesn't do this. Certainly it's anti-aliasing leaves a lot to be desired.

Bob.
lynn1102 wrote on 3/10/2010, 2:49 PM
Power CG Plus from Cayman says it works with Vegas. It doesn't specifically say it's a plug in. I've used it with my old system but not with Vegas.

Lynn
LarsHD wrote on 3/10/2010, 9:16 PM
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Mahesh wrote on 3/11/2010, 1:22 AM
<<If by text quality you mean how good simple white on black text looks then two contenders are the products from Cayman Graphics and the old Inscriber system. Neither of those plug into Vegas.>>
Yes, I still use CG titler. Probably because I have used it from my Video Machine days, and I know how to use it!! I was fortunate to get its Vegas plug-in when it was breifly available.

Yes there's a difference when you put vegas text next to CG text.

Laurence wrote on 3/11/2010, 5:19 AM
I've been using Herogylph from ProDad for quite a while. They have two versions: a light version called "rapid" and the full version. I originally bought the light version then upgraded because I liked the software so much. I can't see any advantage to the full version though. It does some extra event manipulation stuff that is redundant and not as easy to use as Vegas. My recommendation would be to just get the light "rapid" version.

Heroglyph is just 2D, but it lets you do all those standard manipulations that are otherwise missing from Vegas.