I record 1080 50p for my family HD home videos. (UK) I have been given a 1 minute clip from the TV 24p where my daughter was in the audience I'd like to include.
How can I use this without the issues associated with rendering 24p as the old PAL standard (25/50 fps)
What is your intended delivery format? If you are doing DVD or BD, examine your available choices in DVD-A. You may have good luck with 1280x720 50p. Your 50p footage should resize well enough, and your 24p should be tolerably good.
Cheers Kimberly - My output is going to be in several formats. 1080 50p for me with my PS3, 1080 50i for my parents with their Bluray player and DVD 25p for the inlaws.
The only test I've done so far is to render the 24p footage in with my main 1080 50p project as 1080 50p mp4 and the results are pretty shocking! Unfortunately the 24p footage is quite fast paced with lots of movement - probably the worst situation for a mix of frame rates.
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Yes, the whole 24p <--> 25p thing is a no brainer that's been done for a generation by just running the film slower or faster. I say slow faster because quite a lot of film was shot at 25 fps.
There is however the problem of just how 50p is going to look as 23.976p and so far the OP is not impressed. Given that his content has fast motion it's never going to be great, if you've ever wondered why movies only had so much tight coverage of things like basketball in them, that's why.
What *might* help here is to just do it the most basic way in Vegas and let it resample the footage. That might impart enough motion blur to keep the footage watchable, I don't know for sure, here it's very much a case of trying to make a silk purse out of a pig's ear :(
Exactly like Peter says. This topic comes up every so often. I'd just add disable resample, then render to an intermediate format (e.g Sony .mxf), use this on your timeline with your "PAL" footage. Vegas takes care of the pitch shift automatically.
Thanks all for the great replies. I basically went down the absolute frames route, disabled resample and ctrl dragged the clips to the exact amount of frames.
Still not perfectly smooth, but much better. As I said, this was just a short few clips that I was desperate to have in my video. The aim of making it a bit more tolerable has been achieved with your help
I've always wondered how to handle this situation......
I didn't get very well the "stretch the frames part"...
I'm on the same boat as i usually shot 95% of hte videos in HDV 108050i and i have tons on footage shot in 24p with a D5100.
Reading your posts guys i should open a new project in 24p and open the 24 p files right? then i should stretch with the CTRL button till where?
Sorry for my english and for not understanding well
Whwn you say "Change timeline to absolute frames. Note the number of frames" what do you exactly mean? Should i change any settings of the timeline on how to view the timeline??
Sorry for the question but it's the first time i hear something like this
In the lower right corner below the timeline, right click on the first counter box. A context sensitive menu will appear where you can select Absolute Frames as the counter type.