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John_Cline wrote on 6/16/2008, 11:14 PM
Considering the plethora of basic questions from you that have littered the forum for the last couple of weeks, you probably aren't ready to open up the 32-bit can of worms. I suggest that you just leave it set to 8bit. It will be much easier for you (and everyone else.)
StormMarc wrote on 6/17/2008, 12:15 AM
32 bit is mostly broken right now so I do not bother with it. It can give you some interesting transparency effects and possibly better color correction results but nothing worth the hassle right now. You'll get great quality in 8 bit.
GlennChan wrote on 6/17/2008, 12:18 AM
The most noticeable benefit is that it allows you to do linear light processing.
http://glennchan.info/articles/vegas/linlight/linlight.htm

If you do a search on this forum, you can find posts discussing any issues folks might have with 32-bit.

I hope that helps. You can get good results in 8-bit mode too.
reberclark wrote on 6/17/2008, 8:54 AM
I noticed, after taking the advice in Spot's book, that when I render to 32 bit with gamma 2.222 in most cases I get a very clean and brilliant render in SD. It will screw up some effects that I have to adjust, but (taking Grazie's advice) I render my scenes (sections or nests) to AVIs (32 bit 2.222 gamma) then string those AVIs together and render out an MPEG-2 to DVDA at 8 bit. I like my results. With linear checked I would have to make too many adjustments for my experience level. Same with 1.1 gamma. My advice is to experiment and see what you like.
debuman wrote on 6/17/2008, 10:29 AM
John Cline,

Hi there my friend is it your time of the month because Your reply sounds pretty negative. If you do not want to help others then don't. This forum was created for all of us to help each other regardless of how much knowledge they have.

Have a nice day.
Terje wrote on 6/17/2008, 1:22 PM
I have to concur with Cline here debuman, you have shown that you are having problems understanding the most basic concepts, and if that is the case, you really shouldn't start working on anything advanced. This isn't meant as a criticism of you, just an honest evaluation of what your current skill set appears to be.

For example, it still seems you believe that your LG player will not play your BR-R and BR-RE disks even though it clearly will, but that does assume that you actually start a Blu-Ray player when you insert your newly authored disk.

In addition to clearly being relatively new to this, and again, there is absolutely no shame in this, we have all been new to all things at some point in our lives, you are clearly relatively new to the whole Internet thing and the concept of discussion fora. When you started out here you posted exactly the same question re-phrased somewhat, in at least five different threads in two different fora. That shows a lack of understanding of how these things work.

Also, interestingly, it was pointed out to you that you should limit your self to one thread on a specific topic, in other words, stop posting on the same topic in all of the discussion threads you started. You have completely ignored this. That is not good behavior debuman, and it shows a certain lack of ability to learn when someone is trying to teach you.

So, given this, Cline has a very valid point above.
winrockpost wrote on 6/17/2008, 2:15 PM
fair question debuman, since you aint gonna find a thing on the sujbect in the manual.....IMHO it is a waste of time... but thats for me,, and thats because I'm not willing at this point to experiment when so many others have problems with it,,,,if you really want to learn about it the info from glennchan is where to start,,
debuman wrote on 6/17/2008, 2:15 PM
Terje,

Wow!, that was a very, very, very positive feed back coming from a so called "advanced pro". I "the beginner" will give you "the advanced pro" some of my simple advice. If you really want to help just answer our questions it's that simple. If you don't want to answer the simple questions then don't. It was you Terje and many more that helped me and many other "beginners" move on to the next level so whats up with the attitude?.


debuman wrote on 6/17/2008, 2:20 PM
GlennChan,

Thank you for your "Positive Professional Advice".
nolonemo wrote on 6/17/2008, 2:46 PM
Debuman - people here generally don't mind simple questions -- but it's quite another thing to ask a simple question (as you did) that makes it clear that you had not bothered to try to educate yourself using the forum search feature or Google before asking people to take their time to do the work for you.

And, by the way, dumping on respected forum contributors is not a very good way to get people inclined to help you out in the future....
debuman wrote on 6/17/2008, 9:44 PM
Nolonemo,

I understand the frustration I'm giving to all of you but like I said I'm still learning how to do things in a forum and with the sofware. How much time will you give me to learn?. The answer is I need to learn it myself so give me a break and don't even think I'm feeling guilty based on your remarks because that's the whole point of the forum is to help each other. Me dumping on respected forum contributers, read the fine line and see whose really being dumped on because at this point I did not start all this drama. You guys expect us new beginners to learn from you. It started great in here but if you guys are going to back each other up then so be it.

Thanks again for all your help.
farss wrote on 6/17/2008, 10:29 PM
All of us spent years learning, making mistakes, wasting money and generally doing the hard yards. All of us are still learning. After 8 years I think I know most of the questions and a couple of the answers.
Of course all of us have to start somewhere but there's no simple road to success, I've probably spent over $500 on books and training DVDs and that's less than most people in this game.
Everyone here is very helpfull, without the people here I wouldn't know what I know now however you'll find working professionals far more willing to help when they sense you've done your research.
For example there's a wealth of information available on using floating point pipelines with video and film out on the web, apart from some articles by Glenn none of it directly relates to Vegas but it's all the same, if you'd read some of it first and then come here with questions I think you'd get a much warmer response.
You might think I and others here are dumping on you, we're not, we took time out to reply to you. That's more than I've seen happen in other fora, you just get ignored.

Bob.
Grazie wrote on 6/17/2008, 11:36 PM
You know what? I was thinking "I bet we ALL need a 'Glossary of Terms' available online".

. . and that gave me a thought . ."Hmmm... I wonder if the Manual has it?"

Soooo.. I downloaded the VegasPro8 PDF manual (it's freeee!!) and used the Adobe Acrobat Reader search facility and just entered "32-bit float" and I got back some really good finds too!

Has somebody overhauled this working document? The reason being there are many TIPS and HINTS sprinkled amongst its pages with loads of colour pics and easy on the eye graphics. GOOD WORK Madison!!!

The Manual has a glossary, but I can't as yet see a reference to 32-bit. But, the PDF search came back with 8 hits! Now I know more than I did before.

Get the PDF manual - it's much easier to search and kinder to the Planet!; try out some experiments with 32-bit in all its incarnations/flavours; note your findings both quantitative and qualitative thoughts and come back here with results saying what you think of it.

I'll look forward to your research and hopefully you will dig out some useful tips that you can share too!

Best regards,

Grazie

farss wrote on 6/18/2008, 12:09 AM
Here's another / more general tip. Sign up to http://forums.creativecow.net
After you sign up you'll get regular newsletters, I've not seen many directly related to Vegas but still read them. I've learned as much reading stuff about FCP, Edius and PPro that I use in Vegas as anything. The other good thing is you'll get some good offers on free / discount software etc.

Now you also should join Artbeats. Their stock footage is very good but expensive but about every month they give a clip away for free. Get a few freebies and you can make something without even buying a camera and you'll be starting with something shot on better cameras than most of us can afford so no excuses. If it don't look right I can confidently say you're doing something wrong so come here and ask.

Bob.
Grazie wrote on 6/18/2008, 12:31 AM
Bob! What a wonderful idea!! So glad you shared it with us. I too am signed up with those options. And yes, I have made many a good purchase and found more ways to use video than I care to mention here. Very good idea indeed about the artbeats stuff. I got their last download of a fly through amongst mountains! That will surely send my viewers into a spin - and no mistake!

This forum is great, full of such splendid ideas and genuine people.

Grazie
Terje wrote on 6/18/2008, 12:41 PM
Wow!, that was a very, very, very positive feed back coming from a so called "advanced pro"

Hmmm, I am not quite sure what to say debu. Really. Firstly, I am not, and would not claim to anywhere in the "pro" league, semi or not. Not in video or editing. Also, my feedback was neither positive nor negative, it was informative and educational. Not for the product you were asking about, but informative and educational about you.

The "attitude" debuman is not an attitude at all, it is an attempt at being honest with you, pointing out where you need to improve your knowledge. As I said, you have a distinct lack of rather basic knowledge, saying that is not having an attitude it is an advice to you to improve your knowledge.

Pointing out, for example, that your posting behavior was inappropriate was done with a nice touch and being utterly polite all the time. Despite this you continued an unacceptable behavior. That means that you either do not understand that your behavior is unacceptable, even when you are told why and how it is, or that you are unable to understand very basic instructions.

Again, nobody is after you as a person, but when asking for advice you must accept that you will receive answers, some of those may explain to you that your skill level is not up to the task you are contemplating. If you get such advice, take it to hart and try to do something about it.

Again, we are trying to help, and please don't get offended, but as I said, it is amazingly clear that your experience with both video and the internet as such is rather limited. That means that peoples answer to you asking how to do something "advanced" will be: Try to master the basics first.