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HaveGuitar wrote on 3/6/2017, 6:09 AM

No, I haven't had time yet... need to reserve some time to design something that looks descent at least and right now the time I do have goes into just recording and editing the video. And add to that, that I'm not that good at graphics, it'll take some time I suppose.

Vidguy wrote on 3/6/2017, 6:45 AM

I just tried the demo, project resolution is standard 720p, but can be set up to UHD 8k. Output as mp4 video, example here is 1080p50, perfect result I would say:.

Thank You for doing that.. I got similar results.. But don't you think it looks a little clouded and unclear? Maybe I am being a perfectionist.. I just want something that has deeper color and detail..

3POINT wrote on 3/6/2017, 8:24 AM

I don't see what you mean. For a fifty bucks soft it's far from bad.

Vidguy wrote on 3/6/2017, 8:40 AM

I don't see what you mean. For a fifty bucks soft it's far from bad.


I don't know to me it looks like it lacks depth of color and detail.. I will take another look at it..

It has a very soft look to it.. I don't know how convincing it is.. Of course I just threw it together..

tim-frost wrote on 3/7/2017, 4:50 AM

Just adding a bit here. Neat lower third shouldn't be too difficult, Ive done this on masses of exhibition and conference interviews.
Do the background separately as a graphic bar 1920px wide and as high as you want. and save it as png or jpg. This way you have total flexibility and the background can be a solid or with a gradient or have a graphic or logo (If its a png you can also shape it)
Import it into VMS14, and place the graphic in one channel at the bottom (of course) and I normally make it a bit transparent.
Then add the text of any style /colour to display over the bar. Fade the both in and out at will

 

Vidguy wrote on 3/7/2017, 8:13 AM

Tim you are absolutly correct on that to me it is just as good as having a titler program just takes a little longer.. Just to add to what you were saying.. To make the png move use transitions 32 bit floating point > Gradient wipe > Linear L-R or whatever else you desire.. It's easier than keying it.. Plus you can adjust the timing better..

HaveGuitar wrote on 3/7/2017, 8:15 AM

Just adding a bit here. Neat lower third shouldn't be too difficult, Ive done this on masses of exhibition and conference interviews.
Do the background separately as a graphic bar 1920px wide and as high as you want. and save it as png or jpg. This way you have total flexibility and the background can be a solid or with a gradient or have a graphic or logo (If its a png you can also shape it)
Import it into VMS14, and place the graphic in one channel at the bottom (of course) and I normally make it a bit transparent.
Then add the text of any style /colour to display over the bar. Fade the both in and out at will

 

Yes, that is something I have been considering, but was kinda hoping for a more template-like solution or a way to create my own template that I can just drag in/copy and then modify the text as the video progresses. In other words trying to optimize/speed up the workflow (I have a need for the lower third maybe 15-20 times per video) and at the same time make it look a little better.

Vidguy wrote on 3/7/2017, 8:32 AM

@HaveGuitar This guy explains how to make lower thirds very well and how to save it.. have a look..

HaveGuitar wrote on 3/7/2017, 8:36 AM

[[MENTION:75743]] This guy explains how to make lower thirds very well and how to save it.. have a look..

Aha, thanks... will have a look when I get back home from work.

3POINT wrote on 3/7/2017, 8:48 AM

[[MENTION:75743]] This guy explains how to make lower thirds very well and how to save it.. have a look..

Since the masking tool is an only VegasPro feature, HaveGuitar will have some problems to make a lower third according this tutorial.

HaveGuitar wrote on 3/8/2017, 4:40 AM

Thinking about just throwing something together in Gimp 2 with a transparent background, then placing text above it - unfortunately not the most optimized work flow in such a solution but it seems like that what's I have left to do after checking for 3rd party solution which seems to be way over my current budget.

Vidguy wrote on 3/8/2017, 8:03 AM

@HaveGuitar You can do that or use Inkscape there is nothing wrong with using those programs they are great.. Also as a tip.. Affinity photo/designer are very affordable and great programs to have.. If you ever wanted a great couple of programs those are the new Photoshop IMO.. I use them all the time.

HaveGuitar wrote on 3/9/2017, 1:35 AM

Well, I figured I'd post my first lower third, created in Gimp2 - I'm sure it'll evolve over time but it's not bad for a first time... I think. :) So this is how it comes out in the first video:

 

3POINT wrote on 3/9/2017, 3:46 AM

Looks nice HaveGuitar. I don't know which part of the lower third you created in Gimp2 (I even don't know Gimp2)...but exactly the same lower third I can create only with the tools in VegasMovieStudio.

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HaveGuitar wrote on 3/9/2017, 3:54 AM

Look nice HaveGuitar. I don't know which part of the lower third you created in Gimp2 (I even don't know Gimp2)...but exactly the same lower third I can create directly with the tools in VegasMovieStudio only.

Thanks, actually it's all done as a transparent GIF in Gimp. So I have like an empty template, then I fill in the info and exports it with name identical to the current thing I'm showing in the video, in this case the profile name. It's a quite quick process once the info is saved, then I just add the pic's as media and by the name I see which one to drag in to the current part of the video.

 

 

3POINT wrote on 3/9/2017, 4:00 AM

That works ofcourse also nice. The advantage of creating everything directly in MovieStudio is that you quikly can change colors, dimensions, animations, fx etc. of your lower third, without swapping between another program.

HaveGuitar wrote on 3/9/2017, 4:19 AM

That works ofcourse also nice. The advantage of creating everything directly in MovieStudio is that you quikly can change colors, dimensions, animations, fx etc. of your lower third, without swapping between another program.

Yes, that would be nice of course! If you would create something like in Movie Studio, this might be a dumb question but as I don't know I gotta ask - is there a way to save that as a "template" or something similar? Asking because that lower 3rd that I created is made up of six layers in Gimp; 3 text boxes and 3 graphical layers... I hope you see what I'm aiming at with that question... It would not be feasible to recreate all those elements in Movie Studio each time you need - in that video I think I used the lower third around 30 times, but with slighty different info in each occurance.

3POINT wrote on 3/9/2017, 5:28 AM

That's also quite easy to achieve, but not so easy to explain.

My copy of your lower third needed also 6 layers or tracks in Movie Studio. Before saving this lower third as a separate lower third template project, like "my_lowerthird.vf", make sure that you grouped all events belonging to that lower third (G-key).

Now setup your final videoproject and add 6 extra tracks above all tracks. When you decide that you need your  "my_lowerthird. vf" template in that project, just open a second instance of MovieStudio and open your "my_lowerthird.vf" in that instance. Select the lower third and CTRL+C, swap over to the instance of your videoproject and put the cursor on the timeline there where you want your lower third appears, than CTRL+V. Your "my_lowerthird.vf" appears now at the cursor, completely adjustable on the reserved 6 tracks.

When you need that (grouped) lowerthird 30 times in your videoproject, just click with the mouse on your just copied lower third and hold CTRL while dragging the lower third group to another place on the timeline. You will automatically get a copy. Do this for each lower third needed in your project. Every copy is separately editable, which means that text, color etc can be changed afterwards at the spot.

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tim-frost wrote on 3/9/2017, 11:20 AM

Neat job HaveGuitar and that's spot on 3Point. The other way which I use for interview videos which have titling like this, is to create it in an empty template and group the lower third, exactly as above, and make that Master_lowerthird.vf.
I open that for a new project and then save it with the new project's name. Then the lower third is immediately to hand and any other standard project settings are also saved (slightly important at the moment as the current build of 14 opens up new projects with the default settings ).

HaveGuitar wrote on 3/9/2017, 11:24 AM

Will have to dig in to that method later on - thanks for taking the time to explain it in such a detailed, much appreciated!

3POINT wrote on 3/9/2017, 12:52 PM

@Tim_frost, sure your workaround is also a good way to start a new project with the lower third already inside. Especially when you need only one template in your project and Trackmotion settings are used. With copy/paste from one instance to another instance, those settings are not copied.

tim-frost wrote on 3/10/2017, 1:09 AM

We expect great things of you now, HaveGuitar! PS if you are going this route, make a second copy called BackupMaster_lowerthird.vf. to use when you inevitably accidentally overwrite the master with your project in hand (thats the voice of hard experience )

Vidguy wrote on 3/10/2017, 6:56 AM

@HaveGuitar I was thinking it might be neat if your lower third looked like a guitar neck...

Vidguy wrote on 3/10/2017, 6:58 AM

Alot of good tips guys thanks!