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Tyler.Durden wrote on 1/30/2003, 10:09 AM
Hi miwi21,

You might check the temporary files folder setting in preferences.

What format drive are you writing to? OS, etc?


mph

miwi21 wrote on 1/30/2003, 10:49 AM
It's FAT 32, 98SE, never had any problems in VV3, could render as big as 2 hours worth, no change to system. I'm going to take the 4gig pieces from VV4 and patch them together and render in both VV3 and VV4.

Temporary file shows enough space. Maybe it's something unique to this particular project. I'll experiment and let you know. Thanks for the help.
rwsjr wrote on 1/30/2003, 12:35 PM
You need Windows XP and the NTSF(?) file system. The problem you have is a FAT 32 issue, not an issue with Vegas.
riredale wrote on 1/30/2003, 7:11 PM
Miwi21: You're right; VV3 can break the output into 4GB "chunks" in FAT32. Haven't downloaded VV4 yet, but I'd be amazed if they dropped this very useful feature and still advertised it as running on W98.
miwi21 wrote on 1/30/2003, 7:13 PM
I know 98SE has a 4 gig limit but VV 3.0 handles it by creating additional files related to the first file enabling seemless playback and print to tape. Worked fine inVV 3.0 and only problem seems to be with this particular project in VV4.0 as I patched the 4 gig pieces made one at a time back into new project in VV 4.0 and they rendered as before, created 3 individual seemless files. As I said it must have been something particular to this project.

I suppose I should take the plunge to XP but don't know everything about updating drivers etc. Have Promise controller card, Canon Scanner, etc. I want to get a new 5.1 soundcard for VV 4.0 and DVDA so it wouldn't be a bad time to switch. Anything you don't like about XP?

Thanks for the help.
craftech wrote on 1/30/2003, 7:27 PM
It will be a MAJOR problem if indeed VV4 doesn't work in W98SE as it did in VV3 in terms of SEAMLESSLY handling multiple 4GB files. I have rendered 3+ hours of video that way without a hitch using VV3. I have Windows XP Pro sitting in an unopened box for 5 months now. Eventually I will either install it or sell it, but I don't want my arm twisted. Perhaps after Service Pack 4.

John
SonyDennis wrote on 2/5/2003, 12:12 PM
What format are you rendering to? Only the AVI plug-in does file splitting at FAT32 4G breaks. Other formats do not do so because the files that would result would not be useful.
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Jamz wrote on 2/5/2003, 1:14 PM
Only fat 32 has file limitations like that
Jay Gladwell wrote on 2/5/2003, 1:15 PM
Miwi, I've been using Windows XP Professional and it works flawlessly (the Home edition has a few issues).

Craftech, open the box and install it! Once you do, you'll wonder why you took so long.
miwi21 wrote on 2/5/2003, 1:43 PM
I rendered to .avi as I used the first 3.99 gig piece in the subsequent successful render.

As long as I have your attention SonicDennis I'll go a bit off topic and ask another question. I thought that the .avi might be the only format that would allow splitting files. I understand that splitting with mpeg given I frames etc. might be impossible. I've been using Ulead's DVD Workshop, but with Windows 98SE if you render a 2 hour avi or project using the MainConcept encoder you have to use quality settings low enough to keep the resulting file under 4 gigs, otherwise you have to use each mpeg file as a separate "title" and it isn't seemless. Will this be an issue in DVDA? Will you be able to render a 2 hour project into 2 equal high quality parts of say 3 gigs each and author in DVDA to create one seemless movie?

I really don't want to go to Windows XP as 98SE has worked well for me and there are few issues( this being one of them) that make me want to migrate.

Also I don't want to send my money to Mr. Potter in Redmond, I'd rather send it to SonicGeorge Bailey at Bedford Falls' finest employer…Sonic Foundry Building and Loan.
Paul_Holmes wrote on 2/5/2003, 2:37 PM
If you go online to one of these computer hardware sites you can get Windows XP Home for $100 if you also buy a computer part (like say a fan for $10).

Here's an example at Micro Pro where I got mine about 8 months ago:

Micro Pro Win XP Home.

This is the full home version, not an upgrade.

If you can squeeze out the $100 bucks I would take WinXP any day over ME. ME worked OK, but it did crash somewhat frequently. WinXP never. Just make sure you get the latest bios for whatever motherboard your computer runs.
SonyDennis wrote on 2/5/2003, 3:21 PM
Thanks for your kind comments.

I don't think DVD Architect will take two MPEG-2 files and link them together into a seemlessly playing piece, I think each one becomes a separately playable stream.

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sqblz wrote on 2/5/2003, 4:18 PM
miwi21, maybe you can use this ...
I just "discovered" that Vegas does NOT split an AVI if you are rendering the AVI without Including Audio.
Do you have "Include Video" and "Include Audio" both checked ? even if it is a silent movie ...
Do you have OpenDML checked ?

craftech wrote on 2/5/2003, 10:37 PM
I'm still a bit confused on this issue.

Is VV4 different than VV3 in terms of how it works with large files on W98SE?

Or is it only an issue with DVD architecture and/or the AC3 plug in?

John
KPITRL wrote on 2/6/2003, 2:46 AM
I'd like to know also, before placing my
order. Does Vegas 4 differ in this area?

Thanks
miwi21 wrote on 2/6/2003, 3:19 AM
No it works fine. It was a problem particular to one project I was working on apparently. It will create multiple seamless files when you render avi.s as it did in VV 3.0.

The DVD question relates to MPEG rendering which is limited to creating 4.0 gigs max files. I asked if you rendered half your project to one MPEG file and the other half to another, would they be seamless when placed in DVDArch as seperate "titles." SonicDennis' answer above was, no, they wouldn't play seamlessly.
SonyDennis wrote on 2/6/2003, 7:35 AM
Is VV4 different than VV3 in terms of how it works with large files on W98SE?

As far as I know, we made no changes in this area, Vegas 4 should split AVI renders on 4G FAT32 boundarires just like Vegas 3 did.

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