9.0a to wait or not to wait....

epirb wrote on 6/15/2009, 9:24 AM

have the V9 trial, but would really like to see the 9.0a update before i take the plunge. I have always upgraded imeadiately in the past. but I do see a few issues that i would like to see if they are resovled before i take the upgrade offer. The freebees with the introductory offer dont move me too much as i already have new blue etc..
Just money is a bit tighter this year and blah blah blah...
But i dont recall how soon after 8 weas out before we saw 8.0a?
i know its purley speculation but anybody believe they might be far enough along to release 9.0 before the upgrade offer expires?

Im using the 64 bit version which I like but has anyone noticed sometime upon opening a project it doesnt recognize just about every format esp m2t's? shut down and restart and all fine..just kinda strange...

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winrockpost wrote on 6/16/2009, 6:33 AM

well my trial has run out,,, used it twice for a couple of hours each time,I'm sure the bugs that I experienced are obvious enough to be fixed in the a release,, so if I found the new features would benefit me I would buy it, if not I'd continue with 8

The Kid wrote on 6/16/2009, 6:43 AM

I use V9 everyday for my work and I have had no problems at all except for the human problems. I guess it depends on what you are doing and what you are working on. I just got done looking at a training Vid from D-juice on V9 I love what Dr.Eric Franks says about Vegas in it. Makes me proud.
here is the vid to look for
http://www.digitaljuice.com/dj_training/detail.asp?sid=349&sortby=&page=1&rpid=0&rvid=0&swid=0
Sorry do not know how to do the link thing.
Daryl

ritsmer wrote on 6/16/2009, 8:42 AM

To The Kid: Link thing? it is here: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=521496&Replies=0

The Kid wrote on 6/16/2009, 8:54 AM

Thanks on that

blink3times wrote on 6/16/2009, 9:01 AM

"Honestly, I'm quite surprised he's still on the board."

If you'd like to get personal then send me an email... we'll chat. But in the mean time... how about sticking to the topic.

aboukirev wrote on 6/16/2009, 9:02 AM

That's a strange question. What's your long-term plan?
If you plan to buy 9.0x then do it now while deal is on. You don't have to use it right away. Buy it, put on the shelf (or install it for testing/trying), wait for 9.0a, 9.0b, or whatever, move to 9.0 finally. You get the same result (using 9.0x) while saving money in the process.

rmack350 wrote on 6/16/2009, 2:31 PM

Ushere said: hey rob, what's in 10? ;-)

Hah! Beats me. I'm just grousing because I think SCS should get their initial releases in better shape before asking people to buy them.

The truth is that if they're true to form then the best versions of any releases are going to be the b's and c's or later. Waiting for V10 doesn't buy you stability, it just saves you $200 bucks by upgrading every other version.

Truthfully, I'd rather pay for the V9 upgrade just so I can see what other people are complaining about. But I don't think a $50 dollar savings is worth being a beta tester. I could use the money for house paint or something and just get V9 when I'm darned good and ready.

Rob

Rob

fordie wrote on 6/16/2009, 2:56 PM

As I see it for a lot of people Vegas 9 does not make much sense right now.
Vegas 8c works fine apart from the large JPEG issue.(for me)
If I 'upgrade' to vegas 9 my preview with cineform will have problems,
I can no longer use frameserver ( or so i've read as my trial expired and didnt try that)
It doesnt matter whos fault it is be it Sony's, Cineforms or any oher software vendor what is the point in upgrading as vegas 9 offers me nothing except perhaps better jpeg handling.
Im sure there are alot of people in the same situation.

warriorking wrote on 6/16/2009, 5:07 PM

I just purchased Vegas 9 no more than an hour ago, ran the Demo before making the plunge, my latest project was completed totally in 9 without incident, could not pass up the free goodies as well as the reduced price...I will be selling my Version 8 to a co-worker....Other than a few quirks 9 is a keeper in my book...

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VegasVideo wrote on 6/20/2009, 8:05 AM

Not sure if this is a bug or something I am doing wrong. I just finished my first project w/9 and find it is crashing every time I try to render a m2t project to mpeg4. I never had one crash with 8, now I am seeing numerous crashes with 9 although just around this one particular issue.

justinyee wrote on 6/20/2009, 9:24 AM

Vegas Newbie - i remember seeing this type of issue in v8 too, but after tweaking a few settings, got to render. Try rendering in different formats, res. sizes, or codec, and see if you can narrow down the issue. I think any more than that here, you'll have to start a new thread :]

I'll definitely hold off on v9. period. Cost isn't the issue (any single project should more than make up for it). I really don't see any dramatic time saving features, or interface improvements. Did I miss them? Let's talk version worthy updates like GPU enabled rendering / transcoding! Can you adjust the size of the text input window (actual input area)...now? Can I automate randomized transitions? Are there preset motions for 3D space? For me, 8 works great, and until Vegas utilizes the power of the GPU / CUDA, we're at a disadvantage to other products and our own hardware.

rmack350 wrote on 6/20/2009, 9:31 PM

Basically, when you think about upgrading to 9.0 you have to think about risks and benefits. The main risk is that VP9 will bring your projects to a grinding halt.

The minimum benefit of adopting VP9 is that you're using the only version that's going to get any bug fixes. If you want to make product suggestions or file bug reports then you need to be using the current version of Vegas because older versions won't get any more revisions. If you don't want to do either of those things and VP8 is working for you then there's no rush to upgrade.

In the end, the ability to make relevant suggestions and complaints was the biggest reason for me to upgrade.

Rob Mack

VegasVideo wrote on 6/27/2009, 7:00 AM

I used 9 for one project and requested a refund after a week. I wont rehash all the issues others have mentioned that are within 9, but I will say that 9.0 has a major issue w/rendering to mpeg and crashing. That issue should have been picked up by beta testing. I cant believe it wasn't as it would have quickly become known within the first hour of using it. I returned it and will most likely repurchase only after it has been vetted and repaired. I wont pay 185 for an upgrade to be a beta tester.

blink3times wrote on 6/27/2009, 9:36 AM

"Not sure if this is a bug or something I am doing wrong. I just finished my first project w/9 and find it is crashing every time I try to render a m2t project to mpeg4. I never had one crash with 8, now I am seeing numerous crashes with 9 although just around this one particular issue."

It's something you're doing wrong. I can do it fine without crashing.

winrockpost wrote on 6/27/2009, 10:52 AM

Hey blink click the 2 pass option on mc mpeg4

blink3times wrote on 6/27/2009, 11:15 AM

Yes and that's a real showstopper too ;)

winrockpost wrote on 6/27/2009, 11:24 AM

the point is he/she may not be doing anything wrong,,,

Terje wrote on 6/28/2009, 6:08 AM

>> It's something you're doing wrong. I can do it fine without crashing.

Let's say you have some footage, a bit of movement, some stuff that really requires a two-pass encode to work. You can't really use the rather limited Sony AVC encoder that ships with Vegas since its limitations prevents you from creating the optima output. So, you figure you'll try the MC encoder. You set it to a high (or any) bitrate and you use two-pass VBR encoding to get optimal usage of disk space.

The MC encoder has always worked fine. It hasn't been updated with Vegas 9, so there is nothing wrong with it as it relates to Sony. Vegas on the other hand will commit suicide if you try this.