A Curious Cure for Crashing

potomac wrote on 4/3/2009, 2:24 AM

Product: Vegas 8.0c
OS: Vista 64 + SP1
CPU: i7 Core, 6GB
Drives: 2TB

While rendering HD MTS files, Vegas frequently enters hyperspace. The rest of the system is OK and Vegas can be immediately restarted.
Now here's the strange part.
1. It doesn't crash if there are no transitions. A bunch of clips with jump cuts are fine.
2. While it most certainly does crash with any sort of transition, even a simple cross dissolve, it doesn't do so if the rendering is for the loop region only! In other words, if I select all the timeline except the first and last couple of seconds, it renders perfectly. I can have as much music, fancy transitions, video effects and what-have-you as I like: no probs.

I hope this helps other people experiencing similar crashes, and I hope it helps the guys in the back to fix what's broken in the first place.

If anyone from Sony can explain this I'd be very pleased to know, just out of personal curiosity.

-P

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Terje wrote on 4/8/2009, 5:31 AM

you know what marketing departments STATE

BZZZT, wrong. The only reason that there is a version of Vista 64 that can access less memory than the other versions is the result of marketing managers actions, not their statements. There are no technical reasons for this, the only reason is for marketing. That is why the marketing managers are the ones who did this blink. There is no technical reason for it.

Now, interestingly, you knew that the marketing department has crippled a version of Windows. Good for you. Must make you feel like a really big man blink. I mean, reading marketing material. That is hard stuff. Must make you feel like a really big dude.

Sadly for you, since you insist on participating in such discussions, you have absolutely no idea about anything technical happening in a computer. Not at all. You have no idea what virtual memory is. You do not know how memory management and protected mode works in modern Intel-based computers. You have repeatedly shown this.

cliff_622 wrote on 4/8/2009, 5:47 AM

I saw this thread topic and thought; "I wonder if Blink is in this thing,...being the "typical" Blink!"

So I took a peek, and....hahaha,..you are!

Your incendiary style is steadfast and unwavering. (and 100% predictable)

Dude, you are hilarious!

CT : - )

blink3times wrote on 4/8/2009, 5:48 AM

terje this has nothing to do with computers (of which I do know enough about btw)... it's plain basic english. You don't know what marketing departments DO until they STATE what they have done.... unless of course you have ESP abilities.

Marketing departments BTW don't "DO" any crippling... the Engineers "DO" it.

And as far as "crippling" is concerned... it's a popular maneuver by all sorts of manufacturers. Cineform does it with Neo Scene... Sony does it with VMS.... GM does it with cars.... general electric does it with mix-masters.....etc.

"You have no idea what virtual memory is."
Gee.. then how did I turn mine off.... dumb luck I guess ;)

farss wrote on 4/8/2009, 6:16 AM

"Gee.. then how did I turn mine off.... dumb luck I guess ;) "

That shows beyond any doubt that you do not know what virtual memory is. You cannot turn if off.

If you mean you managed to get Windows to run without a page file then this has nothing to do with virtual memory as such. Virtual memory allows an OS to manage memory, typically through a MMU, applications run in a virtual space unaware of their physical memory location. The MMU maps memory access by applications to physical addresses through lookup tables that the OS controls.

Bob.

blink3times wrote on 4/8/2009, 7:02 AM

"That shows beyond any doubt that you do not know what virtual memory is."

Well I'll tell ya Bob... I certainly don't pretend to know all there is about Software and computers. In spite of that, I do my fair share in trying to help others on this board with their issues. Sometimes I'm right... sometimes I'm wrong.... just as you are or even Terje.... as he has already demonstrated. We all have our Forte's in this world and i solidly promise you that I could talk you under the table with mine. That doesn't make me a smarter person... just one trained to a higher level in a specific area.

Regardless to this, I will continue to offer my opinions/ideas on this board because I want to, because i enjoy it..... and because I'm allowed. If you or terje have a problem with this.... OH WELL...

cliff_622 wrote on 4/8/2009, 4:46 PM

"That shows beyond any doubt that you do not know what virtual memory is."

LMAO!

I L O V E these threads!

CT : - )

Terje wrote on 4/14/2009, 2:45 PM

>> You don't know what marketing departments DO until they
>> STATE what they have done
>> Marketing departments BTW don't "DO" any crippling...
>> the Engineers "DO" it.

That is semantically only half way true. Doing something in engineering is a process. The process starts with a specification. At the end of the process the engineers do the implementation, but that doesn't mean that the only "doing" that takes place is what the engineers do.

When an engineer cripples software because the marketing department told them to do so, the marketing department does stuff. They don't "state" stuff. They make a decision and the engineer implements said decision.

You do know what marketing managers do right? Or did you think they only run around telling others what a product does? Marketing is an integral part of product development.

>> Terje >> "You have no idea what virtual memory is."
>> Gee.. then how did I turn mine off.... dumb luck I guess ;)

Hahahahahahahaha. Thanks for proving my point. You can't turn off virtual memory Blink. You can turn off a page fiile but a page file has nothing to do with virtual memory. Thanks for proving my point.

For your information, no matter what you do to your computer except installing Windows 98, it will always use virtual memory.

But hey, it is fun when you don't even try to figure it out before making a fool out of your self.

blink3times wrote on 4/14/2009, 3:11 PM

"Hahahahahahahaha. Thanks for proving my point. You can't turn off virtual memory Blink. You can turn off a page fiile but a page file has nothing to do with virtual memory. Thanks for proving my point."

Well my man... we all make mistakes that's for sure. I think we both have proved that haven't we ;)

Terje wrote on 4/15/2009, 9:16 AM

>> we all make mistakes that's for sure

Yes, I have made one. I didn't know that the marketing manager of Microsoft had demanded a rather odd crippling of one version of their software. You seem to make a mistake every time you talk about something that has to do with computers.