a kind soul needed

baltique wrote on 8/22/2003, 1:26 PM
i'm a total newbie to all this. i've read the manual and tried following it to a "t" but my results don't seem to have much quality. i'll explain later.

could someone walk me through/tell me what i'm doing wrong with the proper process of capturing clips - rendering - making sure it'll work fine with DVD-Arch? (99% of the things i'll do are going to be DVD burns of family stuff.. i don't need to make badwidth friednly movies)

this is what i'm doing/getting:

using sony trv-140 let's say i take a couple of vids. some stuff zoomed in all the way and some not. no effects or anything. just staright shooting. that all works fine. then...

i capture the clips i want with vegas. that all works fine. so now i've got, for example, 4 raw .avi files of captured clips. that all works fine.

trim them a little here and there with the trimmer, use stock effects here and there (nothing fancy - just "brighten" for example). put them into the timeline and put text here and there. that all works fine.

don't touch audio tracks at all- i leave them as is

go to file -> render as
select
type: main concept mpeg2
template: DVD NTSC

renders..
but, and here's the issue, sometimes i'll see what looks like venetian blinds on the edges of things.. usually more apparent during panning or zooming shots..

yet i don't see it (those annoying blinds) in the raw footage when i hook the sony right up to the TV through the sv out.

can anyone help up until here?

thanks kind soul! :)

marc

Comments

Flack wrote on 8/22/2003, 1:38 PM
Can you not post a sample so we can see it. ?


Flack
jetdv wrote on 8/22/2003, 1:44 PM
Those are a result of interlace lines. If you don't see it on a TV, everything is fine.

I initially had a similar problem but have not seen this using any of the DVDA presets. Try picking one of the DVD Architect presets instead. If you insist on using this one, make sure the quality slider is all the way to the right (31).
BillyBoy wrote on 8/22/2003, 1:50 PM
If you mean distortion along the edges of objects especially in scenes with faster action, that effect should not appear once you burn to DVD. Sometimes, depending on source you can get this effect WHEN VIEWED ON A COMPUTER.

For example the other day I was ediiting a commerical high quality DVD to snip out some boring parts I didn't want in my copy and when played back some areas I touched up a little when played in Media Player looked pretty gross. Once burned to DVD, it look fine. While MPEG-2 is fine for DVD, in fact you have to use it, there are better formats for playing off a computer.

Using Version 4?



johnmeyer wrote on 8/22/2003, 1:51 PM
Yes, this is probably an issue with your DVD player on your PC. This happens all the time on one of my PCs when using WinDVD. The solution is to change the "Deinterlace" setting from "Auto" to "Force Weave." If that doesn't work, select "Force Bob."
baltique wrote on 8/22/2003, 2:43 PM
wow great responses guys! i'm impressed.. usually i post stuff to forums and it's met with "yawn" or "rtfm"

yes i'm using VV4.0d + DVDA (whatever the latest upgrade is.. can't remember)

i'll try to trim a little clip out of what i mean. didn't know i could post an attachment..
TorS wrote on 8/22/2003, 4:11 PM
You can't post attachments. Got to have a space of your own where you can upload stuff.
Tor
Chienworks wrote on 8/22/2003, 4:16 PM
You can mail your sample to testbench@vegasusers.com and i'll post it at Vegasusers' testbench. Try to keep it under 5MB; smaller is better. ;)
baltique wrote on 10/6/2003, 7:38 PM
Well I must be doing something wrong..
I've burned to DVD and there are still lines. Stinks.

I'm going to upload to testbench@vegasusers.com and hopefully someone can help me out.

I want to do a DVD for me friend and I can't give it to her like this.

Please help Chienworks or anyone.
Thanks
Chienworks wrote on 10/6/2003, 9:27 PM
http://www.vegasusers.com/testbench/files/baltique-lines_example_mpeg2.mpg

Looks like regular ol' interlace lines to me.
randy-stewart wrote on 10/6/2003, 9:29 PM
Baltique,
I'm not an expert like the others who have posted to this thread but I've run into this before also. I think the effect you are getting is called combing artifact. I get rid of that when rendering to a .avi file by selecting the DV template and then the custom button, and then under the video tab where it says field order (the default is lower), select none-progressive scan (also, select best on the quality option). I don't think that option is available under the MPEG-2 DVD NTSC template, so, you might try first rendering to a .avi file using the progressive scan option, then re-rendering to the MPEG-2 DVD NTSC format. It's a long way around but may just work. Hope it does. Good luck.
Randy
baltique wrote on 10/7/2003, 3:14 PM
thanks randy i'l try that tonight.

chien - what is that and how can i work around it or eliminate it?