"It would be nice if you could highlight them all and change a setting just once. "

Click first keyframe, hold down shift, click last keyframe to select all.
Change whatever parameter.

I say "whatever" because some work and some don't and I seem to recall that feather is one that doesn't. I'd also add that the in/out/both feather control seems to only work as Both.

While we're on that subject, animation FXs that interact with the mask would also give users more to play with.

Bob.

"It would be nice if you could highlight them all and change a setting just once." - Click first keyframe, hold down shift, click last keyframe to select all.Yes, Bob, I realise that? But I use SCRUB instead. . . . .. So what are you saying/adding?

Change whatever parameter.NONE of the Bezier parameters "stick". I just ALL the Postion and Path params. Nada!

I say "whatever" because some work and some don't and I seem to recall that feather is one that doesn't.As I said, just tested and NONE work. What are the ones you have got to work?

I'd also add that the in/out/both feather control seems to only work as Both.Do you mean on being applied as per this "thread" or as a failure to work as prescribed? If the former, then I said this anyway, if the latter that is NOT happening with me - I have all 3 options working fine.

While we're on that subject, animation FXs that interact with the mask would also give users more to play with.Sure.

Yes Jim it is very frustrating indeed! Maybe this is an easy fix for Madison. I'll put it to them anyway.

Grazie

"Do you mean on being applied as per this "thread" or as a failure to work as prescribed? If the former, then I said this anyway, if the latter that is NOT happening with me - I have all 3 options working fine."

My bad,
I just checked this in V7 and I was certain that I could at least change all keyframe from positive to negative because I'd once needed to do that after duplicating a mask. Bummer it don't work either, I must have changed everyone one at a time.

And Yes,
In/Out is working correctly. I think way back there was a problem with this. Which is good that I checked it again as in the process I found a way to avoid a problem I'd had with using dup'ed tracks with positive and negative masks and feathering leaving a mask edge. The trick is to add a In feather to one and an Out feather to the other. Neato.

Well at least I learned something from all this :)

To get back to your original problems. YES.

I wonder if this could be solved with a script?

Or a Paste Attributes operation like DVDA has so one could select which attribute you wanted all selected items changed.

Bob.

I wonder if this could be solved with a script? I very much doubt it? At this point in the proceedings, I would think we are far FAR too much into the API. I have not seen a call-out to a timeline of one these menus via a script? Have you/anybody?

I was certain that I could at least change all keyframe from positive to negative because I'd once needed to do that after duplicating a mask. Well, if I set the params prior, then yes all is good. But not if I haven't. And anyway, if I DO set all the Params the multi change doesn't kick-in either. NOW, Bob, if you are doubly sure you DID get this then maybe you/I/we have stumbled on an invertebrate? ( What IS that on my shoe . . yuck!)

In any event, and placing a feather firmly in my cap, I solved this for a guy by showing him how to develop a Garbage-Matte and making this as a TAKE2 solid colours; arranging as Parent/Child; rendering out and employing out of focus with Gaussian Blur! It worked. It "blurred the edges.

Grazie

i thought about this some more whilst driving back to the "office" to drag out our J30 + SDI monitor but that's another daily saga. Still nothing like a drive in the rain to clear the cobwebs.

To be able to do what you want and I agree it would be a highly desirable thing to do because you know what CAN do this which was the source of my confusion about what I could/n't get Vegas to do is this:

Each parameter needs to have it own track and keyframes.
At the moment each keyframe stores multiple parameters e.g. feather, pos/neg etc. trying to make all of the keyframes adjust when you adjust would leave some impossible to resolve issues in the code. What I *think* Vegas would need is one track and set of keyframes for Feather Type, Amount, In/Out etc. Then what you'd like to be able to do should be doable.

Hope this makes sense.

"NOW, Bob, if you are doubly sure you DID get this then maybe you/I/we have stumbled on an invertebrate?"

No matey NOT sure at all. Probably confusing working in AE and Vegas. It's all a blur of keyframes on life's highway at the moment or are they speedbumps?

Bob.

"Each parameter needs to have it own track and keyframes."

There you have it, Bob!

This seems familiar with Vegas development - I call it the "3-Step-Tango!".

1] Something is embraced as a "new" feature - here, it was "then" Masking - now we have ProType Titler ( say no more . . ). Actually a bit MORE devel has happened with PTT, but the fundamental needs a good kicking . ..

2] We all leap about and say it is good. And yes, Masking IS a good thing.

3] Then when we get all creative and outta dah box on this stuff and NEW developments are then pined-for for this new featurette, "Hulloooo? Anybody OUT there???"

Well, this 3-step Tango I've noticed as becoming more prevalent. Lead times on stuff are getting longer and as NEW stuff and demands are being made then possibly what we clamour for kinda falls away?

So, what do I do? After coming here to gauge the possible need and value I then politely ask Madison.

But do remember the 3-Step-Tango . . .

Grazie

"Lead times on stuff are getting longer and as NEW stuff and demands are being made then possibly what we clamour for kinda falls away?"

Amen.
But in all fairness to SCS are we asking too much?
Vegas despite all its warts is still a great audio multitracker and NLE, especially for those who want to dabble without spending months learning. Many have built sizeable businesses using it, it's paid a lot of bills for me just using it for audio only.

However it is not a compositing application. There is no NLE that is all things in one. Adobe has Ppro and AE, Avid is much the same, as has FCP. There has gotta be something in that, the people who write this kind of code move between all those companies, heck FCP was originally written by people who now work for Adobe.

My great hope was back a few years ago when there was a deal between us Vegas users and Bauhaus to get Mirage cheaply. I though maybe, finally, we'd see Vegas with tight integration with a compositing application. That came to nothing.
My next great hope was the rumour that Vegas would be sold by Xmas. Heck if Adobe bought it and got it working well with AE we'd be really flying and so would Vegas. But Xmas '08 has come and gone. This ain't as silly as it sounds, many times I've heard Adobe people say good things about Vegas. They know it is good, they know a lot pf people don't like Ppro and they don't have a good audio solution despite having had a mixer just like Vegas got recently.

Oh and the other great hope. Xpri. Well it's dead sadly., not that it was a compositing app but it was a step up from Vegas.

So where do we go to move up the ladder. If we wait for SCS to turn Vegas into a compositing app at their current glacial pace the next ice age will have come and gone and that's assuming they can do it without breaking it.

So, yeah I hear you loud and clear. We want tools that aid the creative processes, we want to move on to more challenging creations. We want to take an idea and turn it into a reality. If an artist can't paint what he dreams with watercolors, does he not add acrylics to his pallet. My advice is to think about getting a dedicated compositing application. There's plenty to choose from. I think Mirage's painterly features might suit you well while AE appeals to the engineer in me, well that's probably because I can't afford Fusion and Nuke would mean having to buy a Mac.

Bob.