@ghostt  No, that's not how an adjustment layer should function. There should be no duplicate of the layer below. Look at how an adjustment layer functions in After Effects.

@Vextoh This has already been looked into very thoroughly.

How it was earlier in VP21 build 108, was not fully how an adjustment layer should properly function.... At an overwhelming request by a majority of Vegas users and in collaboration with the Vegas developers, numerous adjustments and tests were carried out over many months to improve and refine this new feature...... How it functions now in Vegas 22 and last build of Vegas 21 is how an Adjustment Layer should be.

Sorry what? You do realize I'm saying they don't function at ALL on a track with a blending mode applied. You can't tell me seriously that putting an adjustment event on a DODGE blending mode, would make the preview black? A dodge blending mode doesn't even display black in any normal circumstances so how would it display black in the preview. Adjustment events have no use on blending layers in the current state if this is how they are "meant" to work

According to other industry standard software such as Adobe After Efdects, the adjustment event is only used to apply FX to the lower track. It's best to put it on a separate track.

And you shouldn't apply blend mode to it. Because it does not have any effective pixels.

The way it functioned previously it "did" though, and had a actual practical function by allowing you to mix effects in different ways, this didn't effect the other normal functions of adjustment events, it was useful and worked fine. For example, in vegas, you can add a adjustment event with pan-crop on it, then set the adjustment event to 50% opacity which will easily and efficiently create a ghosting effect, in prior versions not only would this work fine, you could also place the adjustment event onto a blended layer which would then make the ghosting effect follow whichever blending mode you have applied.

Not only that, if they truly had "no effective pixels" in vegas in practice, the effect of putting it on a dodge layer wouldn't black out the video, it would do nothing. There is a issue here.

This is how it behaves in After Effects. This is exactly what it doesn't do in vegas, it just blacks out the preview. Now, it USED to do this it the previous builds of Vegas 21 exactly as I explained in the original post, so please explain to me how I'm wrong

One of the things I like about VEGAS Pro is how flexible it is. I don't feel so constrained by the interface to work in a particular way. In coherence with that, and regarding the issue of this thread, I think it would be nice if the user had the option to choose whether adjustment events works the way they do now, or how they did initially. Even better if this could be changed at the event level. Something like a "Use compositing mode" button. I don't know if that is possible.

This isn't really a one or another type of issue, they work the exact same way outside of just not working on blend layers. Like I mean exactly the same, in the current state you are only missing out on a possible use of adjustment events that worked normally in prior builds

If the team restore the behavior of the current adjustment event to the behavior of vp21 build 108 as you said, it will bring several times more serious problems than what you mentioned in this post.

what

can you give me an example of a issue that would come from fixing adjustment events on blend layers

As a new forum member, you may be unaware that you can edit a comment within half an hour after posting that comment thus avoiding the need to add a new comment to add to the previous comment. For example, your comment of "what" could have been edited to:

what ... can you give me an example of a issue that would come from fixing adjustment events on blend layers

Even better, here is how it behaved in Vegas 21 Build 108, and for comparison I've also placed the comparison to how they behave "According to other industry standard software such as Adobe After Efdects"

@ghostt  No, that's not how an adjustment layer should function. There should be no duplicate of the layer below. Look at how an adjustment layer functions in After Effects.

@Vextoh This has already been looked into very thoroughly.

How it was earlier in VP21 build 108, was not fully how an adjustment layer should properly function.... At an overwhelming request by a majority of Vegas users and in collaboration with the Vegas developers, numerous adjustments and tests were carried out over many months to improve and refine this new feature...... How it functions now in Vegas 22 and last build of Vegas 21 is how an Adjustment Layer should be.

Yes, this is how they should function.

According to other industry standard software such as Adobe After Efdects, the adjustment event is only used to apply FX to the lower track. It's best to put it on a separate track.

And you shouldn't apply blend mode to it. Because it does not have any effective pixels.

@ghostt The old implementation of Adjustment Events was completely broken for any Fx that moved pixels around: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/error-vegas-pro-21-adjustment-event-and-picture-in-picture--142173/#ca896499

@ghostt The old implementation of Adjustment Events was completely broken for any Fx that moved pixels around: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/error-vegas-pro-21-adjustment-event-and-picture-in-picture--142173/#ca896499

Never did I say I wanted the "old implementation" I'm saying the current implementation does not behave as an adjustment event should, or does, in other software (ex After Effects)

also, it DID work correctly in the old implementation, as opposed to what @lan-mLMC and @Steve_Rhoden said.

This is unrelated to the issue

The current implementation may well have a bug that emerged from fixing this serious issue with the old implementation that made adjustment events useless for many Fx. So it's likely related to the issue.

The current implementation may well have a bug that emerged from fixing this serious issue with the old implementation that made adjustment events useless for many Fx. So it's likely related to the issue.

Yeah it definitely does have a bug of some sort

That's all I wanted to report, but then I was told I was wrong about the basic functions of a adjustment layer/event in Vegas and in After Effects. Let alone by a moderator on the forum lmao

Thank you for actually considering what I have to say and I hope this can be forwarded to some developers and fixed in an update as in the end we all want a better software for us all to use

@ghostt Yes, That is exactly what i told you.... Because how it functioned in Vegas 21 build 108 is not how an adjustment layer functions.

@ghostt Yes, That is exactly what i told you.... Because how it functioned in Vegas 21 build 108 is not how an adjustment layer functions.

haha, please look at my other replies with the youtube videos for a comparison 👍

actually here they are again
Vegas 21 build 108
After Effects (what you compared it to)

Notice how they work the same, now if you would like to, please try the same thing in Vegas 22 and let me know how it turns out (it will do nothing, or break the preview, which is not correct)

I did a quick test of this in 22.122.

If the track with the adjustment event has add, source alpha, screen, lighten, difference applied the blend mode doesn't do anything.

If hard light or difference squared the blending mode does something.

Every other mode is just pure black.

If I delete the adjustment event the result in these other modes is also pure black so I think they aren't taking the adjustment event into account when doing the calculation?

This couldn't be how it was intended to function.

I did a quick test of this in 22.122.

If the track with the adjustment event has add, source alpha, screen, lighten, difference applied the blend mode doesn't do anything.

If hard light or difference squared the blending mode does something.

Every other mode is just pure black.

If I delete the adjustment event the result in these other modes is also pure black so I think they aren't taking the adjustment event into account when doing the calculation?

This couldn't be how it was intended to function.

Yeah also not sure if you tried this already but also, I believe pan-crop on the adjustment event will cause a black screen on most if not all of the blend modes (besides default) I can't remember exactly but I know it does it on dodge, burn, darken, and subtract for sure

In my quick test I didn't see a difference with pan/crop used or not. I used inverse as the adjustment event Fx as it's obvious what it does.

In my quick test I didn't see a difference with pan/crop used or not. I used inverse as the adjustment event Fx as it's obvious what it does.

Got it yeah, in my test a adjustment event with no fx and pan-crop applied seemed to make the video black, maybe try the same setup? Dodge with a adjustment event with no fx (not sure if it matters, but its the same as the test I did on the old build of vegas in the youtube video) and some pan-crop applied, then maybe cycle through the other blending modes

Thank you for testing it on your end