Hi, on VP 22 I am trying the dehaze fx on a fog video clip. Been experimenting with the settings and I just cant seem to get it to look clean. This is what I ended up with, notice the bands in the sky?
Can you post the mediainfo for your clip? Mediainfo is a free app you can download that generates a report that tells us important info about your clip that we need to know to help you.
To go into more detail, things about your video, such as its bitrate, bit depth, etc. can tell us whether banding should be expected when applying an effect like this. If the clip's quality is low to begin with, then applying any kind of extensive color grading or effects that affect the color, brightness, contrast, etc. of the video will likely bring out banding that was already there, but just wasn't as visible in its native form.
Can you post the mediainfo for your clip? Mediainfo is a free app you can download that generates a report that tells us important info about your clip that we need to know to help you.
To go into more detail, things about your video, such as its bitrate, bit depth, etc. can tell us whether banding should be expected when applying an effect like this. If the clip's quality is low to begin with, then applying any kind of extensive color grading or effects that affect the color, brightness, contrast, etc. of the video will likely bring out banding that was already there, but just wasn't as visible in its native form.
Its from a GoPro 5
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Thanks! While it is 8 bit (sometimes color banding can't be avoided with 8 bit video), it does have a sufficiently high bitrate where it shouldn't be a huge problem. Try this, add the AI Smooth effect to the video, does that help any?
That is definitely a VERY foggy scene, so we're pushing the Dehaze effect to its absolute limits. Noise reduction or AI smoothing may help, but beyond that... anyone else have any ideas?
Thanks! While it is 8 bit (sometimes color banding can't be avoided with 8 bit video), it does have a sufficiently high bitrate where it shouldn't be a huge problem. Try this, add the AI Smooth effect to the video, does that help any?
That is definitely a VERY foggy scene, so we're pushing the Dehaze effect to its absolute limits. Noise reduction or AI smoothing may help, but beyond that... anyone else have any ideas?
It worked. Thank you. My GoPro is 5, I have no idea what the other newer models are.
Looking at the video, you can see the fog shift and disappear. I am in the middle of a project right now, but just adding AI DeHaze to the first 2 minutes of the video showed an improvement.
You will have to adjust the settings to get the best results.
@Ruby888@Reyfox I struggled with the AI, I found it hard to remove the banding but it's not my forte tho.
After reading the comments above I did add the Smooth but I found it smoothed a lot of the detail & I confess my pic above isn't solely BCC+Haze, I had to brighten/contrast the image a little & I added a tiny amount of Sharpen to it. Like I say just playing 👍
I find Vegas AI Dehaze a bit to harsh (at least with 8 bit media), it changes colors and brightness quite a lot, the default setting is in my opinion way to high and intrusive, one seems to need to use the slider always to almost zero to reduce the effect.
BCC+Haze is much more subtle, and the default setting is pretty good. It is still my preferred de-hazer.
Do not get me wrong, Vegas AI Dehaze is a useful tool, especially if you do not have the Boris BCC+Haze, but it needs more love (new and improved AI data models?) and a different, more subtle default setting.