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fifonik wrote on 12/24/2019, 4:31 AM

Is that some kind of puzzle? :)

What footage, filters and encoder do you use and what are the VP version and GPU related settings.

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riu wrote on 12/24/2019, 5:43 AM

Hi, I think you didn't understand correctly. Or it is possible that I did not explain very well.

I think the CPU is rendering me up because on the graph the GPU only works at 12%

j-v wrote on 12/24/2019, 6:08 AM

For your screen the GPU needs max 2% so the rest is for other things and if you are rendering in Vegas it depends on version, build and template how much that GPU can be used for decoding and encoding your files.

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Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
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riu wrote on 12/24/2019, 8:34 AM

Ok, I think I understand.

I use Vegas pro 16, with neat video v5 and these parameters:

j-v wrote on 12/24/2019, 11:12 AM

Nothing wrong sofar for VP16, maybe it will go a little faster to render to another HDD than your HDD with programs and other stuff, because writing only gets faster than reading and writing from/to the same disc as also your program.
For me (not AMD believer) VPro 17 goes faster for decoding and encoding with Nvidia than VP16, maybe an AMD adept can help you further for this.

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Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 581.29 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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riu wrote on 12/24/2019, 12:03 PM

Okay, thanks for the help, if anyone knows if in AMD, VPro17 is faster than VPro16 please tell me.

I will also consider rendering to another hard drive.

In any case, I am rendering with the graphics card although the graph says that it only works at 12% and the CPU at 55%?

fr0sty wrote on 12/24/2019, 12:13 PM

You can't expect it to be at 100% at all moments in time, there may be instances it has to wait on something else, and what you're asking it to do might not be maxing it out. How fast is it without GPU acceleration?

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j-v wrote on 12/24/2019, 12:24 PM

@fr0sty
This is not about acceleration but about rendering with the GPU, they are totally different things.

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 581.29 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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fr0sty wrote on 12/24/2019, 1:25 PM

I'm aware of that, but during rendering, if the GPU is used to accelerate an effect on the timeline, it is also used to accelerate that same effect before the frame is drawn and sent to the NVENC chip to be encoded.

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j-v wrote on 12/24/2019, 1:30 PM

...... it is also used to accelerate that same effect before the frame is drawn and sent to the NVENC chip to be encoded.

Sorry I did not know that an AMD used also NVENC.....

 

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 581.29 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

fr0sty wrote on 12/24/2019, 2:41 PM

VCE if using AMD.

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fifonik wrote on 12/24/2019, 5:22 PM

NeatVideo is bottleneck in your case. So you GPU encoder is just sitting and waiting for new frames.

P.S. Could you please add NeatVideo Benchmark results for your RX 560 into NeatVideo results database?

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fr0sty wrote on 12/24/2019, 11:11 PM

Definitely the culprit. Neat Video takes a long time to do its thing even on the best hardware. Make sure NV is set to use your optimal performance setting, run its benchmark test to find out which setting to use.

I added results for my Radeon 7 to the database. 37.3fps

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

riu wrote on 12/25/2019, 4:18 AM

Hi, my rx560 GPU does not appear in the options.
Besides, I don't know what to put in Bitdepth and Radius, I don't understand that.

 

 

This is correct to render by GPU, right?

 

fr0sty wrote on 12/25/2019, 6:40 PM

Yes. If you are using Neat Video, be sure to go into its settings and select the optimal settings it recommends as well. In GPU RAM usage, make sure Neat Video is not using all of your available GPU memory, or it will cause problems with the Vegas encode because it does not leave any behind for Vegas to use. Try a 50/50 split.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

riu wrote on 12/26/2019, 7:50 AM

Try a 50/50 split.

Hi fr0sty, how can I select that split 50/50

Is there any option where I can see it?

fr0sty wrote on 12/26/2019, 10:11 AM

You have to do it yourself. In Neat Video's settings, there is a place where you can specify how much VRAM it uses. Give it half of your total, so if you have a 8GB GPU, give it 4GB of your VRAM to use, leaving 4 for Vegas to do its thing. If you notice any rendering issues in Vegas, then give Neat Video even less.

It may turn out that you do not need to give it half, maybe 75% can be given while Vegas still has enough left over to do its thing, so don't be afraid to experiment to fine tune your performance as good as it possibly can be.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

john_dennis wrote on 12/26/2019, 2:01 PM

This is a measurement for a Radeon RX480 while rendering to the 1) Sony AVC Blu-ray template (which doesn't use the GPU for encoding) and 2) Magix AVC (AMD VCE) Internet template at the same time.

This is a measurement of a machine that is buried with four AMD VCE renders running simultaneously.

I've never seen anything near 100% GPU, but I can render XAVC UHD with levels and some color adjustments to FHD in around real time.