hey spot...
right clicked the track header.. its under set track default properties right?
and input monitoring is checked...
i can hear when i record... but i cannot hear any of the effects that are on the armed track... lets say i have EQ, the LOW all the way up, or something to that effect, something very obvious.. i cant hear the change.... the effect is checked, if i were to record, then play it back, then i would hear the LOW eq rumble away... but not when i am doing it live, not when i am running a mic... or my MD8 track in...

so, i can monitor, but nothing is ever effected.. just the line level, that is all i have control over....

so, make sure im doing the steps right... right click the track that is armed correct?
under input, its set to stereo...

maybe im missing something...

thanks
pj

can anybody help me with this??
p

You only need to monitor to see if you are recording. Add effects etc. later when you mix down. If you want effects in monitor for band etc. you should be sending monitor mix prior to input into computer. Usually you don't want to monitor during recording due to latency. Best setup is audio input to mixer. Monitor mix sent out to band or whoever. Track channels sent to Vegas for recording. After recording add effects, eq etc. until satisfied. Render to wave, mpeg, AC3, or desired format. I usually like to render to wave and send to Sound Forge for final master. If I am doing video I use mastered tracks for final render with video. Remember all you are monitoring during recording is the actual input.

Actually, there is very little latency unless you're working with a slower computer, or have a lot of tracks playing back with a lot of FX, or are recording with 24/96 media. Latency is well below the threshold of comprehension on a fast machine. (5 ms or less)

PJ, I don't know exactly what you're doing wrong, and I don't have a full duplex sound card on my laptop at the moment to dig into it.
I'm wondering if you've got FX bypassed somehow? Put a reverb on that same track header, turn it all to wet, and you still don't hear reverb on the track even then? And you've got input monitoring enabled for certain?

ps/during travel I have very limited access to the web.

thanks for getting back to me...
its turned on to best of my knowledge.. like i said.. i right clicked the track header, and made sure it was checkboxed ON, (i saw no auto? i only saw... input monitor= and a check box that could either be checked on or off)

so am i missing something?

i have tried what you said, added a reverb,made the effect very drastic... and still nothing when coming in, if i lay it down and record, during playback i hear it of course..
but not live coming in....

any more ideas?
thanks
pj

no ideas anyone?
sorry to bump... this is bugging meee

thanks
p

You checked for the ASIO or Classic drivers as recommended above?

i have classic checked

hey there pj.

OK this is the drill - I've just checked and you won't get what you want with Windows Classic Driver.

Go to Options > preferences > audio device > audio device type and look for something that includes ASIO. If it's not on your list then it is not possible with that sound card. But I would be surprised if it's not there.

Make sure you download all the latest drivers for the card as well.

When you have an ASIO device type selected then you will be able to get a list of input monitoring options - auto, on & off.

Then you will need to adjust the latency for the appropriate monitoring - you get this configuration on the Advanced button on the audio device preferences page. If you have a reasonably fast computer you can set the latency to 64 or 128 samples to reduce the latency.

Hope you get it working - I remember what I went through to get this going...

PJ,
Tazio is right, with Classic drivers, you won't see the input formats, I don't know what I was thinking. For surround output, you can use Classic or ASIO, but for input monitoring, you need ASIO capability. My Indigo (laptop) defaults to ASIO, and I was thinking it was Classic.
Sorry for not being able to provide the answer as quickly as it should have been.

Thanks Spot - I've only seen further because I was standing on the shoulders of giants!

no ASIO drivers on either soundcard... the CREATIVE extigy and my internal sigma Tel both have no ASIO...
what gives...
ill try downloading the newest drivers... i did not too long ago for the sigma.. but i have never done for the extigy..
thanks again for all the help you guys

pj

I really don't understand the problem. I can see no reason for even adding or listening to effects during recording. Also if you have ASIO, why would you use windows? I record multi track either through multiple ADATs or analoge mixing board with 8 sub outs. This goes through a MOTU 2402 and into Vegas. I provide monitor mix for musicians through mixing board prior to capture. After capture I add all effects etc. during mixdown. If the musicians need it, I provide outboard effects in monitor mix. I capture all dry so that I have the freedom to try different effects combinations during mixdown. I know that current computers have reduced latency to almost nothing but I started several years ago with Cubase and latency was very noticable then. It was nice that the MOTU provided as direct cuemix to go around latency problem, but if you have a mixing board you can take your monitor mix from mixing board and you do not have to record monitor effects.

In practice, you are correct. However, there are a lot of users that have gone software-only. Monitoring with FX is critical. ASIO is the only way to achieve that, and is impossible to record multitrack without monitoring. Unless of course, you have a mixer.
Funny, when I was still doing software and hardware, I felt the same way as you have just posted. I was constantly getting blasted for not seeing the value in software-only systems. Now that I'm software only, I realize what others meant about 3 years ago.

Thanks Spot for the reply. I come from an audio background and have always had a studio with mixers and plenty of outboard effects. I can understand why someone who has a computer only based system would need low latency or something similar to the MOTU cuemix out capability. I guess it's a good thing that computers have gotten so fast. When I started with Cubase several years ago the latency was so bad that I couldn't have worked with it for monitoring purposes.

Part of being a professional, regardless of industry, is not demonstrating your ignorance. Asking if you are "retarded" shows your ignorance - I would never hire you for any services. Whether you are in a forum among friends, or out in public, please remember that people who use the word "retarded" have a lot of maturing to do.

I was just going to say the same thing....might want to change the title as some people might take offence to it.

wow....a little PC... it is 2005 now isnt it.....
i dont know what is worse.. me writing that i was retarded.. or that you had to bring it up saying that it is a no no, i think that in and of itself brings more attention to the whole thing then just lettin her slide...

people need to chill, just a tad..
sorry, did not mean to offend...

pj