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bitman wrote on 4/13/2019, 10:49 AM

@Former user what is your current intel driver version? I can see in your signature your driver version for your PC and laptop, but it may be different now after your update.

my driver version for the 630 is 25.20.100.6444, I am on windows 10 version 1809.

 

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 194) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 24H2 (since October 2024)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K),
  • Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 HBC (September 2024 upgrade from Noctua NH-D15s)
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

Former user wrote on 4/13/2019, 12:02 PM

@bitman I’ll be able to check in about an hour, but it doesn’t change usualy, very likely still as in profile. Win 10 1809 both, latest updates.  Just checked, as signature, no change.

OldSmoke wrote on 4/13/2019, 12:48 PM

@bitman

I redid using oldsmokes test clips.  By changing the Project frame rate to 25 from 29.97, all playback was slower, which is what I wanted. Proxies not used.  Three pieces used with an overlap croosfade.

I observed the peak values as it played in a loop and also did a screen grab for each of 3 different HW Acc. settings … None, Intel and Nvidia.

HW Acc.

None ..   Max playback fps .. 17    Cpu max 100%    630 Max 55%   Nvidia Max 21%

Intel ..     Max playback fps .. 13    Cpu max 100%    630 Max 52%   Nvidia Max 21%

Nvidia ..  Max playback fps .. 14    Cpu max 100%    630 Max 41%   Nvidia Max 13%

 

None

Intel

Nvidia

Since there are no VFX added it may be of limited use.

 

I would rather think that the peaks you are seeing is GPU load from using OpenCL/GL since you changed frame rate and made an overlap. It doesn’t mean that NVDEC was used.

Last changed by OldSmoke on 4/14/2019, 11:28 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Former user wrote on 4/13/2019, 12:59 PM

@bitman Just checked, as signature, no change.

bitman wrote on 4/13/2019, 1:25 PM

mmm, I finally got some Vegas timeline decoding % using the intel (in task manager for video decoding, mind you, only for 4k, and not for Hvec). I however had to disable my nvidea, connect HDMI to intel (and deselect display port connected to nvidea).

Not sure I want to go further with this, as there is also some discussion on the new intel DCH Drivers breaking QSV if the application (= Vegas) is not recompiled to match the new "intel speech". Checkout other posts on this on the net or here.

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 194) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 24H2 (since October 2024)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K),
  • Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 HBC (September 2024 upgrade from Noctua NH-D15s)
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

AVsupport wrote on 4/14/2019, 2:28 AM


Other NLE (Resolve to mention one) is using NVDEC to decode AVC and HEVC files. It works beautifully. So Vegas team should be able to implement it...

^This correlates with my findings. +1. Timeline playback in VP is choppy and not very well using available hardware.

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

AVsupport wrote on 4/14/2019, 5:06 AM

@bitman how's your system holding up with iGPU re-enabled? (I'm still shy of that very thing for the same reasons..)

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

bitman wrote on 4/14/2019, 10:55 AM

@AVsupport no crashes so far, but if it crashes in games or any other application including Vegas, first thing I will do is disable the iGPU as I do not see any use for it except maybe as a backup for video output if my videocard would be broken. Quality wise rendering via NVENC is supposed to be better as QSV anyway especially so on an RTX (if you believe the promo talk). Maybe another reason to disable iGPU (apart of avoiding conflicts with your main card) is heat. Disabling all not used silicon helps with "saving the planet" by reducing power consumption and thereby heat, which in case of the iGPU is helpful as the CPU will run cooler with all benefits associated with having a cooler CPU (= frequency will throttle down less, fan will make less noise).

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 194) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 24H2 (since October 2024)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K),
  • Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 HBC (September 2024 upgrade from Noctua NH-D15s)
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

AVsupport wrote on 4/15/2019, 5:23 PM

Just checked latest DaVinvi Resolve 16, and whilst 1080 timeline playback of 4K XAVCS clips is fast, I cannot see Nvidia Decode activity in Taskmanager, only 3D, ~12%. That said, I believe Resolve utilizes CUDA as part of their HW acceleration...

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

Eagle Six wrote on 4/15/2019, 5:35 PM

Just checked latest DaVinvi Resolve 16, and whilst 1080 timeline playback of 4K XAVCS clips is fast, I cannot see Nvidia Decode activity in Taskmanager, only 3D, ~12%. That said, I believe Resolve utilizes CUDA as part of their HW acceleration...

In DR16, with a UHD timeline and UHD DnXHD 29.97, I get full speed playback, CPU runs about 42% and GPU about 5%, AMD R9 390 (OpenCL).

Last changed by Eagle Six on 4/15/2019, 5:36 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

Former user wrote on 4/15/2019, 7:18 PM

Just checked latest DaVinvi Resolve 16, and whilst 1080 timeline playback of 4K XAVCS clips is fast, I cannot see Nvidia Decode activity in Taskmanager, only 3D, ~12%. That said, I believe Resolve utilizes CUDA as part of their HW acceleration...

Resolve16 is public beta, prob bugs or currently incompatible. With 15 I get 18-20% 'video decode' on timeline playback of 4k30p files

AVsupport wrote on 4/16/2019, 2:30 AM

Just checked latest DaVinvi Resolve 16, and whilst 1080 timeline playback of 4K XAVCS clips is fast, I cannot see Nvidia Decode activity in Taskmanager, only 3D, ~12%. That said, I believe Resolve utilizes CUDA as part of their HW acceleration...

Resolve16 is public beta, prob bugs or currently incompatible. With 15 I get 18-20% 'video decode' on timeline playback of 4k30p files

Yes @Former user I thought there was! (You're using XAVC-S as well?) Hence I was so surprised not seeing this after I downloaded..! Interesting..

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

Former user wrote on 4/16/2019, 4:01 AM

I just tested with 4K50P XAVC-S and you are right, there is no hardware decode. CPU 82% just for playback. Media Player Classic is able to use hardware decode - 34% 'video decode'. Although a lot of cpu, playback is perfectly smooth, compare to Vegas15 where I get 1fps, and it's not usable.

Converted to HEVC & CPU reduces to 32% due to HW decode on timeline (resolve)