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bStro wrote on 1/8/2009, 10:33 AM
Sony doesn't announce release dates until that day has come (though Vegas 7, I think, did "accidentally" get advertised in a magazine in advance). So we can only speculate.

If Vegas 9 is on the horizon, it would likely be announced / released during NAB -- mid-April-ish.

Rob
John_Cline wrote on 1/8/2009, 12:34 PM
The new version usually comes out quite a bit after someone first posts a message on the forum asking when the new version will be out.
je@on wrote on 1/8/2009, 12:50 PM
Soon. Only. Not. Yet.
craftech wrote on 1/8/2009, 1:22 PM
The new version usually comes out quite a bit after someone first posts a message on the forum asking when the new version will be out.
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Oh, then I guess it should be out really soon John.

John
InterceptPoint wrote on 1/8/2009, 1:42 PM
I've never been first at anything but I keep trying:

When will Vegas 10 be out?

There I did it. This may be a winner.
srode wrote on 1/8/2009, 6:26 PM
Why would you want to see Vegas 9 when Vegas 8 has so many opportunities for improvement - there were versions of Vegas 7 out to e I believe - we should see a few more releases of improvements on 8 before 9 shows up. If 9 was coming soon - the 64 bit version probably would have been released with it along with DVDA 5.0 too.
Sebaz wrote on 1/8/2009, 6:30 PM
Given the bug filled calamity that is 8.0c (and 8.1 doesn't fall far behind) and the lack of updates to fix the several bugs, I doubt that they are actually working on 9, if they are working on anything at all. it seems to be a rather abandoned product.
AtomicGreymon wrote on 1/8/2009, 6:49 PM
Given the bug filled calamity that is 8.0c (and 8.1 doesn't fall far behind) and the lack of updates to fix the several bugs, I doubt that they are actually working on 9, if they are working on anything at all. it seems to be a rather abandoned product.

Well, hopefully that isn't the case. 8.0c and 8.1 didn't come out that long ago, anyway... but maybe the lack of any further VP8 updates could mean they're instead focusing on resolving these issues in VP9; and with any luck drastically improving the HD workflow and available codecs for HD output.
Cliff Etzel wrote on 1/8/2009, 6:53 PM
It seems Vegas is only bug filled for certain people - Vegas has pretty much performed without issue for me - minor glitches, yes, but nothing that can't be resolved by using HDVSplit (In my case)

I don't buy it that Vegas is buggy - only the hardware a particular user has. There's a reason why Avid will only guarantee its products on certified machines. Deviate - they pretty much say you're on your own.

I researched my hardware before purchase. I'm sure others like John Cline and others did the same thing when they either custom built or purchased a prebuilt machine. And they get work done day in and day out without the issues other seem to experience.

Why is it some have issues, yet users like myself, John Cline, and others have no issues whatsoever that would be considered deal breakers?

My advice: Use something else if Vegas is that much of an issue.

Cliff Etzel - Solo Video Journalist
bluprojekt | solo video journalism blog
AtomicGreymon wrote on 1/8/2009, 6:58 PM
That's quite true... I myself have never had any crashes with VP8, whether a, b or c. Granted, I've worked almost entirely with SD footage; and the HD footage I have edited was totally uncompressed AVI... most issues seem to be with AVCHD.
drmathprog wrote on 1/8/2009, 7:10 PM
Think of Version 9 as a do-over for Version 8, sort of like Windows 7 and Vista. :-)
AtomicGreymon wrote on 1/8/2009, 7:16 PM
Certainly an apt analogy... I've never had an issue with Vista, either, lol.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 1/8/2009, 7:39 PM
Given the bug filled calamity that is 8.0c (and 8.1 doesn't fall far behind) and the lack of updates to fix the several bugs, I doubt that they are actually working on 9, if they are working on anything at all. it seems to be a rather abandoned product.

ms didn't stop with windows me, they released more after that! :)
John_Cline wrote on 1/8/2009, 7:49 PM
"I researched my hardware before purchase. I'm sure others like John Cline and others did the same thing when they either custom built or purchased a prebuilt machine. And they get work done day in and day out without the issues other seem to experience."

I could be wrong, but I don't believe that anyone that built machines to the specifications that I posted HERE have been reporting any problems with Vegas.

I pound the blazes out of Vegas each and every day and it just continues to work flawlessly.
ECB wrote on 1/8/2009, 8:13 PM
I built my machine to John's specs and not one problem with Vegas. It's the most stable platform I have ever had.

Ed B
TheHappyFriar wrote on 1/8/2009, 8:28 PM
mine's nothing like that & I've got no issues.

many times it has nothing to do with a specific brand but more the quality of what you get (not price). Cheaply made stuff doesn't work well.
Opampman wrote on 1/8/2009, 8:55 PM
I too have a custom built machine and have used Vegas since 3.0.
I use it all day, mostly with HDV footage and no significant problems. I am still on 8.0b but no issues at all.
blink3times wrote on 1/9/2009, 2:37 AM
The only crashing problems I've had were with 7e and 8a. Since then Vegas has preformed like a champ. It does exactly what it is supposed to do when I tell tell it. No black frames either!

People with "buggy software" claims need to have a closer look at what they're running on..... because it's NOT the software.
blink3times wrote on 1/9/2009, 2:40 AM
"Why would you want to see Vegas 9 when Vegas 8 has so many opportunities for improvement - there were versions of Vegas 7 out to e I believe"

That was an odd circumstance though... the addition of the long awaited avchd support.
Grazie wrote on 1/9/2009, 3:10 AM
Since then Vegas has preformed like a champ. It does exactly what it is supposed to do when I tell tell it. No black frames either! Well Blinkie, the BETA Team must get reeeeally bored then? With there being no BUGs to squash?

As to NEWS on 9 - I can categorically state it will be before Vegas10. But for heaven's sake, don't tell SONY I said that . . .!

Grazie
eVoke wrote on 1/9/2009, 4:03 AM
"I researched my hardware before purchase. I'm sure others like John Cline and others did the same thing when they either custom built or purchased a prebuilt machine. And they get work done day in and day out without the issues other seem to experience."

I could be wrong, but I don't believe that anyone that built machines to the specifications that I posted HERE have been reporting any problems with Vegas.
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While this is the first time I've come across the link to JCline's system specs - I will say that he is right in principal.
If you're going to be putting a system together yourself you should research all your parts and follow the hardware manufacturers recommendations. Before I started buying the components for my new system I checked for compatiblity and recommendations from the Vista 64 listing and the maker of my motherboard. It did add another 4 days on to my system build overall BUT it was well worth it in the end because everything works perfectly.
blink3times wrote on 1/9/2009, 4:11 AM
"With there being no BUGs to squash?"

There are ALWAYS bugs to squash Grazie. It wouldn't be software if there weren't :)
Sebaz wrote on 1/9/2009, 4:36 AM
many times it has nothing to do with a specific brand but more the quality of what you get (not price). Cheaply made stuff doesn't work well.

Indeed, which is why I bought good quality components.

Motherboard Intel D975XBX2, Intel boxed Q6700, OCZ Platinum DDR2, Western Digital Serial ATA 2 drives. I would say that's pretty decent, and I rarely get crashes from any other software but Vegas.

I don't buy it that Vegas is buggy - only the hardware a particular user has.

Wrong. Vegas is seriously buggy. 8.1 wouldn't be that buggy if they fixed a few things in it, particularly the trimmer bug, the files not found when opening a project bug, the project dimensions pre-render bug, and a few more I can't remember right now. 8.0c, on the other hand, is a calamity. Both using it in Vista 32 and 64, I could rarely get a long project to render to an AVC elementary stream, something which I had no problem doing in 8.0b, or 8.1. 8.0c is an unreliable piece of junk.

ms didn't stop with windows me, they released more after that! :)

I used Me for a little while. Certainly not a great OS, but if Vegas were as reliable as Me was, I would be a lot happier with it.
blink3times wrote on 1/9/2009, 5:34 AM
"Both using it in Vista 32 and 64, I could rarely get a long project to render to an AVC elementary stream, something which I had no problem doing in 8.0b, or 8.1. 8.0c is an unreliable piece of junk."

Please show me a true NLE that is NOT buggy with an elementary avc stream directly on the time line.... and by the term " true NLE" I don't mean something like Nero or Ulead MF6.

The only NLE's that are actually work quite well are the ones that transcode over to something else first.

While it is true that Madison got off to a late start with avchd (something I don't excuse), they are now in the same ball park as any of the others. You can get it done.... BUT.....