Any way to disable GLOBAL splitting?

daniel-t wrote on 8/27/2022, 11:14 PM

I think the feature that causes me the most unintentional grief, is accidentally using “S” without explicitly having a track selected. I split events a lot, and because I’m expecting the media to split at the cursor and it does, I sometimes don’t notice that it’s gone and accidentally split every freaking media item on every track under the playback cursor.

And then a while later after I’ve done enough work that I don’t want to undo everything, I’ve got to go through and repair everything (especially audio events which end up with micro fades).

I don’t want to disable “S”plit on single tracks or even globally entirely - just make it harder to accidentally use. Is this possible?

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lan-mLMC wrote on 8/27/2022, 11:51 PM

If you don't select an event before splitting, vegas will cut all tracks

And if you delete one event, vegas will deselect any event.

So this cause that, if a user is customed to remove events by deleting, he may often splits other track's events mistakely, and he even may not notice this at that time until the work is closed to end.

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In this case, you can try SeMW plugin. https://www.semw-software.com/en/extensions/ It has a feature to only split the event that is in the selected track. You can assign it with S key. Because after deleting a event, vegas will not deselect any track. So using SeMW can avoid spliting other track's events mistakely.

Former user wrote on 8/27/2022, 11:54 PM

@daniel-t Hi, If you do accidently split an event & don't want to do loads of Undo's you can select the two split halves, right click & Event Heal to join them back together

daniel-t wrote on 8/28/2022, 12:11 AM

Thanks for the tips! And also for “heal”; I didn’t know that was a thing.

My current projects have many layers and I just had to fix one split I don’t even know how old it is, and I must’ve had to correct 30 split events, some with only like a frame or 2 sliced off. That’s probably the dozenth time I’ve done that in the past couple months, thus my post!

lan-mLMC wrote on 8/28/2022, 12:13 AM

Aftet deleting an event, user don't want to waste time to reselect a event. This is critical.

Grazie wrote on 8/28/2022, 12:58 AM

@daniel-t - I believe I understand what it is you’re after. Try this for size….

I’ve always wanted a BETTER warning that I’ve selected an Event. If I focus my attention on an Event, but haven’t clicked on THAT Event, yet, there’s nothing to tell me I’ve focussed on that event - well it wouldn’t, would it, I haven’t selected, clicked on it, yet. So, to make it OBVIOUS to me that I HAD selected it, I’d like it to PULSE, bit like a Heart Beat that’d “die-off” over several seconds. The value here, in what I’m suggesting, is that NO HEART BEAT - NO EDITING…..yet. Presently we have that meek outline and the coloured Event warning. I can see all the old VegHeads shaking their collective heads and finger wagging that would be a Little-Pretty-Kitty approach. Well, Gurus, I’m sure a “classy”, “professional” pulse could be created. In any event, you could always have an option to turn it off 😉.

I’ve always wanted something more urgent, informative, signalling and attention-grabbing than the present meek “suggestion” of what I’ve focussed on.

This editing endeavour is all about Clarity, by providing a cleared pathway to our narratives. Simples!

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/28/2022, 11:24 AM

@daniel-t There is a Vegas script around that split events that are selected, and if nothing is selected, nothing is split... That i think would suite your needs quite well.

jetdv wrote on 8/28/2022, 1:11 PM

Here's the bottom line of how "S" works:

If everything is selected under the cursor, everything will be split.

If something, but not everything, under the cursor is selected, only the selected items will be split.

If something is selected but nothing under the cursor is selected, nothing will be split.

If nothing is selected anywhere, everything under the cursor will be split.

daniel-t wrote on 8/28/2022, 1:33 PM

It’s that last one that I seem to have an issue with. Sometimes the event isn’t selected like I thought it was, or I’ve somehow clicked elsewhere and accidentally selected NO event… and then this happens.

Is there a real legitimate need to split everything with nothing selected? Is CTRL-A first not logical? Is there precedent for features being applied to non-selected events, other than when in a specific ripple mode?

Speaking of ripples, perhaps that’s how this feature should actually work. No event selection with no ripple = nothing happens, no selection with affected track ripple = only the active track(s) and all child tracks are split, and no selection with all tracks = global split.

jetdv wrote on 8/28/2022, 4:54 PM

@daniel-t, I frequently split with nothing selected. I like the freedom the current process provides. If I happen to have nothing selected, it will still split when I press S. Did it split more than I wanted? If it matters then I just undo, select what I want, and split again. Otherwise I just go on.

daniel-t wrote on 8/28/2022, 5:01 PM

Heh, and about the only time VP19 crashes for me is specifically undos, after a long editing session - and really big undos (like 30 split events at once, or accidental ripple edits) tend to cause it more frequently. :)