Anyone else gone back to 9.0b ? -- I just did.

xberk wrote on 11/12/2009, 7:28 PM

I didn't think I had this problem.

Orig Back to 9.0b thread

But after building a new i5-750 and using Windows 7, the problem has appeared. It's hard for me to fault the new system as everything works fine under 9.0b.
But under 9.0c, some jpgs -- some png's -- just disappear. No preview. Just black. I don't think the image size is the problem. Exiting Vegas and reopening brings them back but not for long. Other weird things happen too. During a pan/crop zoom out, if I zoom way out so the image is surrounded by black, the image drops out. But -- it comes back if I zoom back in. Weird. Hard to explain all the weirdness that happens because it is ONLY SOME images that have a problem. I converted these to PNG but it didn't help. All images were produced at one time under the same conditions yet some seem to have the problem -- others do not. Right now, I don't have time to run this problem down. I can't be sure it is not related somehow to these "certain" media that go bad -- or a codec problem -- except why would everything work just fine on the same system under 9.0b ?? Weird. Working strictly in SD.
- Paul

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CClub wrote on 11/13/2009, 3:47 AM

I've actually had great success with 9C and upgrading to Windows 7 64bit with a whole new i7 processor/motherboard, 12 GB RAM. Great preview, phenomenal rendering, etc. BUTTT, I'm having the exact same problems you're describing... especially the weird pan/crop/zoom issues where the image is surrounded by black and when I click to choose the 16x9 preset, it is unable to properly do so. Usually, when I've shut down Vegas and sometimes even restart the whole OS, it fixes. I just don't have time to track down the issue as I just re-installed all my programs for Windows 7 and I'm knee deep in a project, but it would be nice to get a solution. Has someone submitted a trouble ticket on this?

xberk wrote on 11/13/2009, 7:38 AM

I have not submitted anything to SCS as the problem -- at least for me --- occurs just with certain images. I'm not sure everyone can duplicate this problem. When I get time I will run this thing down but hopefully 9.0d will address it. Otherwise, like you, I was doing fine with 9.0c and loving the preview and render speeds with my new i5-750 Win7 machine. 9.0b giving me good results.

jrazz wrote on 11/13/2009, 1:49 PM

I'm getting the same thing with 9.0c (64) on Win7 64. Drag an image to the timeline (all from the same day, same time period) and some display while others do not. If I open pan/crop it is there and if I readjust the size it shows up in the preview window. The thumbnail shows the image on the event, it just doesn't show in the preview window unless you resize it.

j razz

CorTed wrote on 11/13/2009, 3:57 PM

Yup, it's an interesting problem as it does not seem to have it on all images??
But surely enough trouble for me to head back to 9.0b.
I am patiently waiting 9.0d and hope they fix this.

When I first reported this nobody seemed to have this issue, and I thought it was me or my set up. But now I feel a bit better knowing more people see what I feel is a rather large problem.

EDIT: I submitted the problem to SCS. Let's see what they say.

Ted

ingvarai wrote on 11/15/2009, 10:39 AM

Ye, I have gone back to 9b for the 64 bit part of Vegas, for 32 bit I use 9c. Thre reason is that rendering nested AVCHD project with 9c 64 just does not work in some cases. 100% reproducible.

> submitted the problem to SCS. Let's see what they say
Where and how do you submit bug reports?
Ingvar

CorTed wrote on 11/16/2009, 2:21 PM

Well, I just received a response from Sony on this one.
Looks like they are not aware of any problems. Must be our set ups??

Here is their (partial) response:

Hi Ted,

xberk wrote on 11/16/2009, 7:33 PM

Ok. I don't run any anti virus. And I don't think I'm happy to hear that SONY has nothing on this problem. I'm certainly not thinking that my new i5-750 build running Win 7 64 is the problem .. There's next to nothing on this box and everything is fresh. What's so weird is that 9.0b DOESN'T have the problem with ANY image and 9.0c ONLY has the problem with SOME images. It's also strange that more folks on the forum don't have this problem. I didn't when I was running Vista. Meanwhile I'm back to 9.0b until next weekend when I may have a chance to load up 9.0c and see if I can narrow the problem down into something SONY can verify.

jrazz wrote on 11/16/2009, 8:42 PM

All I had on my system at the time was Vegas 9 (64 and 32) and Windows 7. No plugins, no antivirus (which I haven't run in over 9 years), no other programs. I never had this problem with 8 or 9a/b.

Now all I have on this system is what I listed above plus Cinescore.

Edit for clarity: Windows 7 Professional 64 bit edition.

j razz

LReavis wrote on 11/17/2009, 10:11 AM

just for the record, I've seen the same problem with graphics - Win 7 64bit Pro. I haven't spent any time teasing out the scope of the problem, but now mostly edit in 8C, then put long, complicated projects into 9C-64bit for rendering, usually with the view>waveforms and thumbnails NOT checkmarked. So far, this 2-step has worked the couple of times I've tried it.

CorTed wrote on 11/17/2009, 12:08 PM

Sounds like the problem is limited to WIN7 64 bit.
Very strange that SCS is unable to repro this, as it appears there are a number of us in this thread that can an have.
I may have to load 9.0c back in, just so I can can do some more testing and help in finding the root of it.....

Ted

amendegw wrote on 11/18/2009, 5:35 PM

"Sounds like the problem is limited to WIN7 64 bit."
I just had this problem this afternoon, with Vista 64, Vegas 9.0c 64 bit.

...Jerry

ingvarai wrote on 11/20/2009, 9:12 PM

Jerry:
I just had this problem this afternoon, with Vista 64, Vegas 9.0c 64 bit.
Jup - Vista 64 here too, and have returned to 9.0 b. At least one 100% reproducible AVCHD issue here.
Where do I submit bugs to Sony?

Edited:
I mean bug reports of course.. they probably do not want any bugs..

Ingvar

CClub wrote on 11/21/2009, 5:47 AM

Ingvar,
I never signed up for a support plan, as when I've had a bug, I do the following: click "My Account" at the top of this webpage, click "My Support," then "Ask a Question." That became an official submission for me, and then they followed up with me via email. Eventually, when the problem was solved, when you go to this webpage, it says "Solved."

dxdy wrote on 11/28/2009, 9:12 AM

I rolled back to 9.0b today, too. XP PRO SP3. Q6600 3GB RAM.

I have had no troubles with 9.0c until yesterday, when I mixed some large jpgs, an Upshifted mts file from a Canon HF S10, and a png created by Vegas from a frame on one of the mts files. Suddenly frames turned red on me. After a shutdown, restart, and purge of the mts files, it just plain crashed...and I sent off the dump to Sony.

Today, nothing with an Upshifted mts will finish rendering (to mp4), with a low memory error towards the end of the render (these projects are 2 to six minutes long).

Rolling back to 9.0b, the stuff will render.

I do notice that the swapfile for 9.0b appears to average 400 MB smaller than 9.0c did.

I hate to go back, but I have to be able to render these projects.

Sigh.

L8R wrote on 11/30/2009, 8:58 AM

How do you roll back to 9b?

xberk wrote on 11/30/2009, 9:51 AM

Remove 9.0c from your system. Install 9.0b and register it.
If you don't have it, a copy of 9.0b should be downloadable in the Vegas Current Archive files.

Current archive

CClub wrote on 12/2/2009, 9:57 AM

Interesting... I just loaded a veg in v9C (64bit) that I've been working on for several years. Several mov files (HDV, 1.3333 PAR, purchased from www.detfilmshd.com) showed as 1.0 Pixel Aspect Ratio, so the event looked like an SD, square event on the timeline. This had never happened to these specific events in Vegas 8 or any of the version 9's. I opened it in v9c 32bit, and it opened fine and showed as HDV 1.3333 PAR. I then went back to v9c 64bit, and the file still showed up as 1.0 PAR. I was able to switch it via event Properties, and it shows up fine. But somehow it seems that v9C 64bit is mis-reading the attributes of project media.