TheHappyFriar wrote on 5/13/2010, 11:00 AM
There's a few plugins that randomize events (excal & ultimate come to mind) but nothing, that I know of, to keep specific things together. Groups are ignored.

But... it works with anything: audio, video, images, generated media, etc. That link doesn't say it works with anything (I'm assuming it works with all video events though).
kkolbo wrote on 5/13/2010, 11:12 AM

The montage tool in Production Assistant and VASST's Ultimate S do that with video clips or stills or both. With the video I take and create a bunch of quick subclips in the trimmer and put them all in a media bin without their source. Then I tell either script to pull from the media bin and bingo boppo biffo it is done. I can place markers with the beat of the music and it will fill the clips in with transitions on the markers.

I can't live with out the tool.

Here is a tutorial/demo
Montage Tutorial

Earl_J wrote on 5/13/2010, 4:25 PM
Well, KK,
Your link takes me to the download for media player; I download and install it; ... now, how do I get to the link for viewing the tutorial?

Until that time... Earl J.
kkolbo wrote on 5/13/2010, 4:36 PM
hmmm. once you have Windows Media Player installed, it should be there. It takes a minute or two to load, but it seems to be working.

What browser are you using?
Earl_J wrote on 5/13/2010, 5:20 PM
perhaps I'm not waiting long enough...
I did download the FF version, I believe... sometimes I'm not sure I understand everything I know about this computer thingy. . . (grin)

I'll go give it a try and wait a while longer...

Earl J.
Earl_J wrote on 5/13/2010, 5:49 PM
Well Keith,
I ate half a bag of pistachios while watching half an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise ...
nothing showed on the full speed version, but I was able to view the 100K version in its entirety...
it appears I'm not the fully-fast download type ... more like a half-fast viewer. . .
lol ...
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I did enjoy the demonstration; howsomever (grin), your original premise is that users pick the music and then add the images. If you have a function where users like me who first create the video (using many of the built-in Vegas Pro automation tools) and build the appropriate pace/transition speed, and then create the music to the length of the montage (ala Sonicfire Pro), then you've got another sale... (grin)

Until that time. . . Earl J.

Spot|DSE wrote on 5/13/2010, 6:05 PM
There is also Mayhem
Earl_J wrote on 5/13/2010, 6:13 PM
Hello Jay,
I imagine you're interested in the randomizing feature most of all...
If you rename your images to give you the sort/sequence you want; grab them in the bin from the last to the first; drag them to the timeline as a group; they appear in the sequence you've built before you bring them into the timeline.
Remember that numbers come before letters ... and numbers require as many digits as to build a sequence of all the images you want to select in the bin. If you have 99 images, label the first 01 ... if you have over 100, the first will need to be 001.
Please forgive me if you know this technique; I do not intend to insult you with this issue.
You don't need to rename the entire item ... just add the number at the beginning so you don't lose track of the original filename.
For example, you want dance03 to precede ballet99 (b appears before d in the bin) - rename them 01_dance03 and 02_ballet99 - they should sort themselves in the bin as you rename them - then when you drag them into the timeline, they appear in the sequence you determine.

Not quite random, but certainly a more personally creative method than sheer random luck... (grin)
A lot more work, certainly ... but also a lot more precise...

Just trying to help, honest...

Until that time... Earl J.
Earl_J wrote on 5/13/2010, 6:33 PM
Hey Spot,
yes... that one also ... how could I forget?
Well, for me ... easily... (grin)
I just watched it a couple of weeks ago... (sigh)
Very intriguing...

Until that time ... Earl J.
altarvic wrote on 5/13/2010, 8:41 PM
Also you can try this extension: On the Placement tab there are tools that you are looking for.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/14/2010, 3:47 AM

Earl, no offense taking, quite the contrary. Thanks to you and all who posted. Much appreciated!

bsuratt wrote on 5/14/2010, 8:31 AM
Mayhem will probably do what you want.... fast and easy!
Earl_J wrote on 5/16/2010, 8:18 AM
Hello Jay,
thanks for that ... I'm never quite sure when to stop an explanation ...
In my experience with the notion of it goes without saying ... what people normally believe should go without saying can probably eliminate much heartburn and anxiety if it was actually stated up front at the start of many projects until the group establishes a group experience; then, many things they've experienced together can actually go without saying...
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Anyhow, I appreciate your patience. . .

Until that time . . . Earl J.