As Administrator, how do I share Veggies?

Grazie wrote on 1/8/2012, 5:38 PM
I know this must be a 101 question, but keeping it Vegas-centric how should I go about this when everything I've done has been as admin? All my veggies and video work.

Of course this has become uppermost for me as urgent as wanting to test the "Other User" possibility for the search for stability.

TIA

G

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amendegw wrote on 1/8/2012, 5:56 PM
The public folders? Share files using the Public folders

...Jerry

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Chienworks wrote on 1/8/2012, 6:01 PM
There's no need to put any of your files of any sort in the stoopid "my documents" directories that Windows creates. Just make folders anywhere else, and everything in them is accessible to all users.
Grazie wrote on 1/9/2012, 2:30 AM
O...K.... (?) - I can do that with Veggies.

Now where should I put my Vegas Windows Layouts? And are there any "other" folders/files I'd like to share with this new "User" I've created?

TIA

G

Chienworks wrote on 1/9/2012, 5:51 AM
I would guess that would depend on when you installed Vegas whether you specified it was available for all users, or only the user under which you installed it.

Personally, for at least the thousandth time, and certainly not the last, i wish Windows had some global setting somewhere that would eliminate completely anything to do with "users", back like it was in the good old Windows 3.1 days. If you don't need "users", and almost every non-corporate Windows installation doesn't, it just causes no end of headaches.
Grazie wrote on 1/9/2012, 6:06 AM
Kelso, I had a new PC. I made myself the administrator. I didn't setup any users just me as the administrator. I then installed Vegas.

Since the revelation(?) of the User being a clean way to start VP11, I've made a new User called "Video Editing" - has a certain ring to it I thought - and that's as far as I've got.

What should I do now?

G


farss wrote on 1/9/2012, 6:53 AM
"If you don't need "users", and almost every non-corporate Windows installation doesn't, it just causes no end of headaches. "

There's a small thing called "security" involved though and that's not an issue unique to Windows.

Bob.
Grazie wrote on 1/9/2012, 7:13 AM
.... and so what do I do?

G

megabit wrote on 1/9/2012, 7:28 AM
Grazie,

Put your files wherever you wish (or even leave them where they are): the first time Vegas will ask you for the paths, you will point them to it, and it should remember and bother you no more .

Hopefully :)

Piotr

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Grazie wrote on 1/9/2012, 8:51 AM
Nope . . . . The first time I opened under "Video Editing" user it wouldn't see my Folders I created under my Administration user account.

Now what?

TIA

G

megabit wrote on 1/9/2012, 8:58 AM
- does your "Video Editing" user have Administrator privileges?

- if so, browse through C:\ Users, not "My Documents"!

Piotr

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Grazie wrote on 1/9/2012, 9:04 AM
Administrator privileges?

Ah no, no it doesn't. Can I have 2 Users with Admin rights? Shall I change "V.E." to have Admin Rights? Or shall I make a fresh User?

Guys thanks for your assistance.

G

megabit wrote on 1/9/2012, 9:17 AM
Yes, you can have more than one Admin.

Piotr

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Chienworks wrote on 1/9/2012, 9:46 AM
Grazie, what if you put your files somewhere outside of the "my documents" tree? Just make a folder on one of the drives somewhere like F:\veggies\ and put files there. All the accounts on the computer should be able to see them.
NicolSD wrote on 1/9/2012, 6:22 PM
You can always share your directory and give access to anybody you want or the entire world. But then, that wouldn't be a very secure way of taking care of your data.
farss wrote on 1/9/2012, 6:35 PM
"Yes, you can have more than one Admin."

Perhaps not overly relevant in the current context but I got badly caught out assuming exactly this.

You can have as many Administrator equivalents as you want.
There can only be one "Administrator". An equivalent is in most but not all ways the same.

Bob.
Steve Mann wrote on 1/9/2012, 10:35 PM
Grazie, I think you are trying to overthink your problem.

You don't need multiple accounts.

I only have one account on all my PC's, and they are all administrators.

You just do a "save as" and select any folder on any hard disk to save your .veg file. If you need to collaborate with other editors, all you need to do is make sure the other editors have a copy of the original media, and the veg file. As the project develops, all you ever need to exchange is the veg file.

Grazie wrote on 1/10/2012, 12:43 AM
Steve, I'm looking to create the situation that I can check this option to bring stability to Vegas by using a NEW USER account. That's all I'm trying to ascertain. I'm not looking to get more complex - believe me!

G

Grazie wrote on 1/10/2012, 1:19 AM
Chienworks: Grazie, what if you put your files somewhere outside of the "my documents" tree? Just make a folder on one of the drives somewhere like F:\veggies\ and put files there. All the accounts on the computer should be able to see them.

Sure, these are the Projects. But what about all the other things Vegas needs, or doesn't need? How about my Windows Layouts? My VSTs have moved over.

How much more do I need to move, to just return to the same situ with Vegas as I was getting? Meaning, I would have gone full circle to get to the same situation as before, meaning, instability.

Cheers

G
Steve Mann wrote on 1/10/2012, 9:32 AM
If your computer has a problem, a new user would have the same problems.

something I haven't ever tried, but you could try installing Vegas in a sandbox to isolate it from the rest of the PC.

Here's one that has gotten good reviews - and it's free.
http://www.sandboxie.com/
Grazie wrote on 1/10/2012, 10:16 AM
If your computer has a problem, a new user would have the same problems.

Ok, right. I was reading our chum's positive results on creating a new account?

G

Liam_Vegas wrote on 1/10/2012, 4:19 PM
Grazie... I am considering doing the same thing.

I uninstalled 511 and went back to 425 (or whatever) after having nasty crashes and keyframes in pan/crop over stills going haywire. I have also been reading the post about how adding a new user account corrected the instability issues. Sounds crazy to me... but might be worth it.

I think what you are missing is being able to share the Vegas Windows layouts you have configured withing Vegas on your initial user account? I would guess that is something that Vegas remembers and is linked to your other user account.

I did a quick search on "Sony Vegas Window Layouts" (google) and found the following article that might help you with transferring your nice window layouts

Transfer Window Layouts from VP9 to VP10?

(it's referencing going from one version to another... but the same will work if you want to transfer from one account to another). note: the %APPDATA% link shown brings up the "active users" APPDATA folder.

For your original account (assuming you have a username of Grazie this is where it will actually point to.
C:\Users\Grazie\AppData\Roaming\Sony\Vegas Pro\11.0

You should see a set of files named *.VegasWindowLayout here - those are the ones that you need to copy over to your new accounts folder here->

and your new account will be this folder.
C:\Users\Video Editor\AppData\Roaming\Sony\Vegas Pro\10.0

Hope that helps.
larry-peter wrote on 1/10/2012, 5:52 PM
I've been trying to keep up with this thread because it raises some interesting questions if this is solving some crash problems. Can you accomplish the same thing by right clicking "Run as Administrator" when opening Vegas as you can by creating a new account? I have been under the assumption that the "Administrator" account is always available for use but hidden from the log in screen unless activated by command prompt.

Another thing I was wondering, did everyone (or no one) install Vegas by clicking "run as Administrator" on the installer? I know several applications specify that in their install instructions and can have issues if that is not followed. Since moving to Win 7 I do that by default now when I install, even if it's not specified. I can't remember if Vegas said to do that or not.
Chienworks wrote on 1/10/2012, 7:37 PM
It seems like whenever any of the Sony folks have addressed the issue, they have always stressed using "run as administrator" while doing the install.
Steve Mann wrote on 1/10/2012, 9:45 PM
I suspect that SCS advice of "Run as Administrator" is more of a precaution from drivers or codecs that installed without administrative permissions. Not by deliberate design, but because the third parties may develop and test their code with administrative permissions, and running without admin permissions is risky. Permissions are inherited by the calling process, so running Vegas as admin will by default run the subordinate third-party code with admin permissions.