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whitepony wrote on 8/13/2002, 11:43 PM
i've been reading the manual, and this forum, and gone through some tutorials just to get an idea of how vv3 works. question being, i want to make a music video using at least 8 tracks of video. does the video editing work like acid pro, where i would have many tracks that produce one song, or will all the video clips have to be cut and pasted onto one track? or could either work?

thanks

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vonhosen wrote on 8/14/2002, 12:55 AM
It's many tracks to produce one song.

Think of video tracks as like layers of an onion. You will be seeing the top most layer and where you get breaks in the top layer you will see the one underneath & so on. Also if the opacity of the top layer is such that it becomes transparent you will begin to see what is underneath as well.

In short if you had 8 equal length video tracks all placed one under the other you would only be seeing the top one. if they are offset as you get to the end of the first one the next track below that will then become visible & so on.

The good thing about them being on seperate tracks is it makes it easier editing &applying effects & filters to that video alone than if they were all on the same track.
sonicboom wrote on 8/14/2002, 6:02 AM
whitepony i just made a music video for a friend of mine
it came out great
here's what i did
i shot like 15 takes--all different angles
some shots of drummer, singer, hot girls etc
then i layed each track over one another on vv3
then i just split each one, like 150 separate events
brought each one to the top track
put fx on individual events
then i matched up a great copy of their audio
then i rendered----it came out great and they were really happy
see you at the mtv awards
:)
sb

Chienworks wrote on 8/14/2002, 7:59 AM
WhitePony: any video events that take place at the same time (for example, different camera angles of the same part of the song) should be stacked in separate tracks above or below each other. Any video events that take place sequentially (for example, verse 1, chorus, verse 2, bridge ...) can be placed on the same track one after another. However, you may still place them on separate tracks if you wish. Play for a while and see what makes sense to you as you go.
whitepony wrote on 8/14/2002, 10:28 AM
when you moved all the video pieces to the top track, how did you keep the vid and audio in sync? and it's my understanding that if you want to use crossfades and such, it has to be on one track. is this correct?
Chienworks wrote on 8/14/2002, 3:42 PM
As long as you only move the pieces vertically, you won't lose sync. Just make sure you don't move them horizontally at all. An easy method for this is to position the cursor at the beginning of the event you want to move. Then when you move the event to a different track you can "snap" it to the cursor.

Crossfades can be done between tracks, but it's not automatic. You can fade one track out while the other fades in. You can even do most of the transitions this way as well. However, having the two clips on the same track makes it a lot easier.
jetdv wrote on 8/14/2002, 3:55 PM
An easier way to make sure you don't move the clips horizontally is to use the numpad key 8 to move a clip up and the numpad key 2 to move a clip down. You may need to press it multiple times.
Chienworks wrote on 8/14/2002, 4:07 PM
Kewl! Thanks jetdv!
Tyler.Durden wrote on 8/14/2002, 4:14 PM
Hi whitepony,

You might want to start with a good audio track and lock it so you can't accidentally edit it, then sync-up your different camera angles on higher tracks as suggested above. Then you can do the split/move (or copy) up to a top track.

When you have sequence of events on the top track, you can drag the *ends* of the events while the "automatic crossfades" button is active and you will make crossfades and keep sync. Drop transitions over the crossfades to spice things up.

For images to get the idea, you might take a peek at this tutorial for Multicam in Vegas... that tutorial is focused on real-time marking of shots, but the basic idea with shots and tracks is there too.

http://www.martyhedler.com/homepage/Vegas_Tutorials.html


HTH, MPH
salad wrote on 8/14/2002, 5:45 PM
Actually....Yes! That IS Cool! Thanks for the keybd tips jetdv......keep those coming! Some of the explanations in the manual for kybd shorts are kinda confusing at first. I need to try ALL of them to see if it's one worth memorizing.

pat
whitepony wrote on 8/16/2002, 9:55 PM
ok, so let me see if i understand. go ahead and lay down the audio track and then the different video tracks. the one on top will be the one playing unless it contains any gaps. as far as moving a section of a track to the top without losing sync, i'm not quite sure. martyh says

"When you have sequence of events on the top track, you can drag the *ends* of the events while the "automatic crossfades" button is active and you will make crossfades and keep sync."

could you please explain this in more detail. "dragging" sounds like an excellent way to lose sync.
Tyler.Durden wrote on 8/16/2002, 10:13 PM
Hi whitepony,

"as far as moving a section of a track to the top without losing sync, i'm not quite sure. "...

You can use the S key to segment a section of a shot, then drag it to a track on the top... to make it easier, before you drag, move the cursor (timeline bar) to the head of the segment you split. Then, when you drag the clip to the top track you can let it snap to the cursor, and it will keep sync.

"could you please explain this in more detail. "dragging" sounds like an excellent way to lose sync."...

If you place your mouse pointer over the head or tail of an event in the timeline, you will see a change in the pointer... that means you can drag with the mouse and increase or decrease the inpoint or outpoint without moving the whole event.

Check: Help>Keyboard Shortcuts - for more nifty ways to edit.

HTH, MPH

jetdv wrote on 8/16/2002, 10:51 PM
I always hit CTRL-A to select ALL tracks and then use the S key at the beginning and the end of he clip to be moved. Then, click on the clip to be moved and use the numpad 8 key to move it to the top track. Once it is on the top, use CTRL-ALT LEFT ARROW to move to the beginning of that clip. Click on the header so that only that header is selected. Then press the numpad / key to insert an automatic dissolve.