ASIO driver bad behaviour

Bsound wrote on 11/15/2022, 6:00 AM

Hello

Currently in v19 build 643. I cannot get Vegas to play 100% nice with ASIO audio. I'm using RME audio which are the gold standard of ASIO drivers, and work flawlessly in Magix Sequoia, Reaper, Pro Tools, Nuendo on the same machine.

Issue one. If I'm using ASIO with Vegas, certain Normal operations in the application glitch out the audio (at all buffer sizes). Simple operations like vertically scrolling tracks, or mousing around In the Project Media. Does not happen with Windows Audio driver settings.

Issue two, related. Having become frustrated with the ASIO performance, if I then go to change the audio driver model in Preferences, it often doesn't actually change once I click apply. Changing driver models and channels is unpredictable, especially going back to ASIO from WDM. The last WDM setting persists. Often, I have to trigger some state where I get a pause and an hour glass icon for 10 seconds, for the driver model or channels to actually change.

If anyone has any helpful tips on these issues, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Thanks.

Comments

Dexcon wrote on 11/15/2022, 6:25 AM

I've never got an ASIO audio device selection to work in Vegas Pro, Sound Forge Pro or iZotope RX over some 10 years or so and over many computers from desktops to laptops even when a Creative sound card (on the desktops) has been installed. Microsoft Sound Mapper always works though.

DMT3 wrote on 11/15/2022, 7:53 AM

I can't offer any advice, but I have two computers running V19 with two different ASIO drivers and have not had any problems. One computer uses the ASIO driver provided by M-audio to run an M-track Duo device. The other uses ASIO4all to run a Behringer U-Phoria UM2. So it some cases, it works well with ASIO.

I also wanted to add these are running windows 10.

Yelandkeil wrote on 11/15/2022, 8:08 AM

Probleme is those profi devices still stuck on Win7 or even Winxp, decade long no proper drivers developed by their manufacturers.
If it works (e.g. with ASIO4all), that's really a luck. And, VEGAS does support ASIO not well.

rraud wrote on 11/15/2022, 10:14 AM

Microsoft Sound Mapper always works though.

As @Dexcon stated, If you cannot get ASIO devices to work, use Sound Mapper (or Classic Wave driver).
FWIW, ASIO drivers work for me in VP-16.. though I do not have a RME interface

Bsound wrote on 11/15/2022, 2:26 PM

Microsoft Sound Mapper always works though.

As @Dexcon stated, If you cannot get ASIO devices to work, use Sound Mapper (or Classic Wave driver).
FWIW, ASIO drivers work for me in VP-16.. though I do not have a RME interface

Well of course, I do do that. But I'm currently trying to troubleshoot the ASIO... which is working, but not working optimally. A properly functioning ASIO interface can be much preferable Windows driver models, in certain aspects.

Bsound wrote on 11/15/2022, 2:39 PM

Probleme is those profi devices still stuck on Win7 or even Winxp, decade long no proper drivers developed by their manufacturers.
If it works (e.g. with ASIO4all), that's really a luck. And, VEGAS does support ASIO not well.

I'm sorry I have to factually correct you there. RME drivers are regularly updated for both Win OS and OSX. The release date of the XT's current driver is 2022-02-09. In fact, it's the inverse of the situation you describe: RME maintain support for older OS and machine architectures. This is a strength, not a weakness. I have an ancient Lenovo T430 and plain original Madiface on Win 7 that can record 64 tracks like a champ, with a recent driver, even though the laptop and soundcard are long discontinued.

Sounds like it's time the Vegas devs gave some attention to ASIO. Apart from the v20 VST3 feature, it seems like audio has gotten no attention in years, which is a real shame, as at one time it's expanded feature set compared to other NLE's was a real asset.

ChristoC wrote on 11/15/2022, 6:24 PM

Just to add grist to the mill, I always found Vegas ASIO works extremely well with SSL/Soundscape ASIO Drivers, not so well with RME ASIO Drivers .... go figure...

Yelandkeil wrote on 11/16/2022, 12:43 AM

@Bsound, pardon me.

I met a few cases and thought all of them the same.
A lesson to me with no investigation.
My bad.

Bsound wrote on 11/16/2022, 2:51 AM

@Bsound, pardon me.

I met a few cases and thought all of them the same.
A lesson to me with no investigation.
My bad.

No worries! 😹

Bsound wrote on 11/16/2022, 2:52 AM

Just to add grist to the mill, I always found Vegas ASIO works extremely well with SSL/Soundscape ASIO Drivers, not so well with RME ASIO Drivers .... go figure...

OK, interesting. Given how old the SSL drivers are getting, it does make one wonder. Thanks for the info.