Audio Dropouts at End ID's

seanmccoy wrote on 2/8/2013, 6:44 PM
Hey all. Did a spoken word project for a client recently, and she called to tell me the last bit of audio was being clipped off of every track. Everything was there in CDA and the CD master played perfectly fine in my studio CD player. Eventually I was able to reproduce the problem with a copied CD played back in my crappy under-counter CD player in my kitchen. Turns out it was the track end ID's being too close to the end of the actual audio. I've burned hundreds of masters and thousands of copies and never run into this before. Anybody else?

I'd hate to have to stop using end ID's as they give a much more accurate reading of the track lengths. Of course, CD's aren't long for this world anyway...


Geoff_Wood wrote on 2/11/2013, 3:28 PM
What length of time is cut-off ? Audio needs to end on a 'frame' boundary. But these are 1/75th of a second or something like that ....

Also ripping to an MP3 (etc) can do things like that. Or (apparently) cheap and nasty CD players !

seanmccoy wrote on 2/12/2013, 4:19 PM
Hard to say how much is being cut off since it only happens during realtime playback, but it's certainly in the milliseconds. I suppose it could be a frame boundary issue, which could account for up to nearly a second of dropped audio if that's indeed the cause. I guess I need to be as careful about leaving an end ID cushion as I am about the start ID's. I've been using CDA since its initial release, so it's strange that only now have I encountered this one.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 2/14/2013, 4:11 AM
Maybe a setting has been changed, like the one for 'strict Red Book' . Or writer device/firmware....

seanmccoy wrote on 2/14/2013, 5:28 PM
Well, since my system drive crashed over the weekend and I've had to re-install everything from scratch, I'll have a perfect opportunity to check all the settings!