Audio rubberbanding

hendo wrote on 4/17/2002, 4:57 AM
Hi
I am in the process of downloading the trial version on vf, and I am wondering if you can adjust the levels of the audio so that one scene it can be low so you can here dialouge, and in another loud.

I also have an Adaptec 4300 fire wire card, does anyone use this with this software, and does it work.

Thanks in advance.

Andrew

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Chienworks wrote on 4/17/2002, 7:19 AM
Yes, you can adjust the volume levels moment by moment through the timeline. Each individual clip may have it's volume level set independantly. Using a volume envelope will allow you to adjust the volume in a continuously variable fashion, with levels changing and fading as often as you wish.

If the card is OHCI compliant (and most Adaptec products are quite standards compliant) then it should work.
hendo wrote on 4/17/2002, 10:08 AM
Hi
Thanks for that prompt reply,

I managed to import from my Sony TR7000E, without any dropped frames, so that is a great relief. Have only been playing around with this for a few hours, and I seem to be getting the hang of it.

I can individually alter the volume on music/sound or voice, on each clip, I think. But when I play all the clips together the music volume sounds at the same level.

Im still a bit confused about the envelope, and what it does, could you explain in plain English for a dumbo like me

Only been using for a few hours, and already a pain in the arse on the forum, sorry.

Thanks in advance.

Andrew
Grazie wrote on 4/17/2002, 12:00 PM
Hendo - I've been using VF for a month now and I'm absolutley smitten with it.

OK Audio Rubber Banding. Go to the audio section in the timleine - hey use a piece to expereiment with! Place your cursor point over a section of the audio graph - and right click you mouse button. You see an option to "Set a Point". This will place a little squre block on the graph. Now, if you rest you cursor pinter over this square block/point and carefully hold down the right (i think its the right mouse button!) mouse button and drag it up or down you can adjust exactly the audio at that point. Place a another point on the audio curve and you can adjust the audio level up and down to your hearts content! Place even more "points" on the graph and you have hours of fun and exhiliration in front of you! Believe me, I was about to throw this Digital Video business out of the window - before VF that was.

Have a look at the Alaskan VF sample movie, its got audio point all over the place - then you will see how flexible this package really is!

As to pains in nether regions - nah think nothing of it - we all have to start somewhere. It took me eight months of VideoWave 3 & 5 to see the light [thanks to VinceG et al]!

Have fun

Grazie
hendo wrote on 4/17/2002, 12:28 PM
Hi
Thanks for that, seems so easy now, this product is the dogs bo*****s.
I just hope when I get the full version I can export back to the cam with no probs.

The interface looks misleadingly complicated, but after a few hours and help from you folks, I cant believe how easy it is becoming.

Thanks again

Andrew
Grazie wrote on 4/18/2002, 2:25 AM
Hendo

Yes it is the "Canines Sperical Appendages"!

You might try converting, as I did, mono to pseudo stereo (see my post on this on this Forum). Basically I've got an old banger of a Panasonic CamCorder with - yup - one mono mic on board. If you look carefully at the audio track Pan/VOL switch, to the left hand window, you can litertally Pan the mono through 180 degrees from left to right. Leave it in the middle and you have something akin to stereo. B*****y brilliant! Now to give that audio track a bit more "umph" try copying the same bit of audio over and a little behind the original. You now have a simple echo of the original audio. Better STILL is you drop that copied audio slice to a spare audio track you can then alter just that piece of audio - use the audio marker/points to adjust this independantly from another part of the track. You should now have an echo which is a little bit quieter than the orignal - typical of an echo effect! Yup - you can repeat this process and achieve something like you are hearing the audio in a cavernous subterraenen cavern!

Oh yeah just had to come back and edit this message as I've just thought of another idea! If you were to Pan and sweep this echo piece from left or to the right you would reeeeaallly achieve a simple echo of the two speakers. I'm thinking that if you can think of a procedure for VF to do it does try yo accomadate your creativity. I'm not in to Blue Screen back projection - VF does not do this..... yet.

OOhhh.. I just love this product!

Tarah

Grazie
hendo wrote on 4/18/2002, 1:46 PM
Hi Grazie
I read your post twice, and still dont understand it but it sounds good anyway, I am a few weeks away from buying VF, as my birthday is not till May, trouble is I need a larger hard drive to. I have a 13 gig ATA 33 at the moment, but with windows and associated games/office software, space is getting sparce to say the least.

Now my question to you is, how to I persuade my wife that I need a 60 gig 7200 rpm HD preferably two, VF, and another stick of 256 DDR memory. After all we are supposed to be going to Spain in June.

I wish I had taken up bird watching, all you need is a pair of binoculars, stout boots and a thick coat.

Andrew
randy-stewart wrote on 4/18/2002, 2:33 PM
Hendo,
Here's an approach...produce a short video using pictures from when you started dating up to the first anniversary or so, put some romantic music behind it (Salen Dione's Falling Into You track is nice), and use a lot of crossfade transitions. On the last slide of the show, type something like "and the story continues". Then after she stops the tears and starts saying wow, we should do that with our our other pictures and videos, work in that you could do more if you had a little more drive space and memory. When she asks how much that will cost, say something like "less than what we spend eating at fast food places in a month. At the very least, you should get lucky. Worked for me. Good luck. :-)
Randy
Stiffler wrote on 4/19/2002, 2:05 AM
Randy, that is great advice. I'll have to try it so I can keep my VF, VV, my new HD, and my new camcorder because she doesn't know yet!!! I'm so bad...I'll just give her a $100 here and there to keep her from asking questions, (but the kids are getting hungry).

Grazie...where are you from?
randy-stewart wrote on 4/19/2002, 3:27 AM
Stiffler,
Sounds like you are living dangerously. Beware the woman's wrath...hell hath no fury...
By the way, really enjoyed your video on Chienworks site. The band rocks! You asked for constructive suggestions...the camera angles are excellent but I wanted to see more of the drummer and close ups of the vocalist. Also, you might try some of the video effects during the musical solo's like rolling color or negative to positive in time with the beat. Super tune! Keep it going!
Aloha!
Stiffler wrote on 4/19/2002, 3:54 AM
Thanks, Randy...that is the kind of imput I'm looking for...I'll have to look into the effects that you are talking about. :)

hendo wrote on 4/19/2002, 6:46 AM
Hi Stiffler
Where can i see this video of yours.
Andrew
SkipWoolwine wrote on 4/19/2002, 3:21 PM
I want to see it too.
Skip
Stiffler wrote on 4/19/2002, 3:38 PM
You can thank Chienworks for this website for sharing:

http://www.chienworks.com/media/vidfact/