AVC .MOV Video is not deblocked in Vegas 14 build 201 [SOLVED]

gerdagerd wrote on 12/3/2016, 6:54 AM

Video files that are looking normal in vegas 13, are looking horribly blocky and artifacted in vegas 14. I am using build 201.
Clearly, deblocking is somehow disabled for me.

This happens when I import a Vegas 13 project, as well as when I import the file by itself.
It happens on H.264 files from the canon s100 camera.
In Vegas 13 it helps to change preview quality to "best". This does not help in Vegas 14.

Render quality is affected as well. This makes resulting Renders unusable.

Please advise / fix.

Comments

NickHope wrote on 12/3/2016, 7:32 AM

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-improve-the-quality-of-my-avc-h-264-renders--104642/

gerdagerd wrote on 12/3/2016, 8:22 AM

Thank you Nick.

Your post has helped me to narrow it down to my Canon S100 footage. Panasonic GH2 works fine.
The problem still persists, though.

The important thing to notice is: both work fine in Vegas 13. Quicktime is installed and all is well in that regard.
Quote from your post: "MOV files such as those containing H.264 (AVC) video will also be read natively by VEGAS."

Seems to me that it is a bug in Vegas 14. Would you not agree?

set wrote on 12/3/2016, 8:36 AM

Tested with DJI Osmo's footage. (AVC+AAC), VP14 uses compoundplug.dll to read it.

I can choose container between MP4 or MOV, and I use MOV.

NickHope wrote on 12/3/2016, 8:39 AM

Seems to me that it is a bug in Vegas 14. Would you not agree?

Can't really answer that with the info given. Apologies for the impersonal cut and paste, but to help us help you, please:

Tell us how your source media was generated (i.e. what camera or program) and what format/codec was used (if you know).
Post the MediaInfo text report of your source media.
Post the VEGAS Files Propertes of your source media (the MediaInfo guide linked above shows you how).
If the media is not too large you could post a link to a sample of it, for example on Google Drive or in your Dropbox "Public" folder.
Consider submitting a support request, including as much detailed information about the problem as you can.

gerdagerd wrote on 12/3/2016, 8:49 AM

hi set, hi nick, I have cut up one file here for testing purposes. I can see blocking quite clearly in the sky, see screenshots. - I've uploaded the file here:

https://mega.nz/#!2YFiyKaA!Fagi0rn2epMXOXaegS4wpsh9mwmyoLgqUySW-nCwHZ0

MediaInfo:

General
Complete name : C:\Users\FatPig\Desktop\blocking-demo.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 20.2 MiB
Duration : 5 s 5 ms
Overall bit rate : 33.9 Mb/s
Writing application : Lavf57.41.100

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L5
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=12
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 5 s 5 ms
Bit rate : 33.9 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.681
Stream size : 20.2 MiB (100%)
Color range : Full
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Vegas Info:

General
Name: blocking-demo.mp4
Folder: C:\Users\FatPig\Desktop
Type: Sony AVC
Size: 20,69 MB (21.186.395 bytes)
Created: Samstag, 3. Dezember 2016, 15:44:03
Modified: Samstag, 3. Dezember 2016, 15:44:03
Accessed: Samstag, 3. Dezember 2016, 15:44:03
Attributes: Archive

Streams
Video: 00:00:05,005, 23,976 fps progressive, 1920x1080x12, AVC

ACID information
ACID chunk: no
Stretch chunk: no
Stretch list: no
Stretch info2: no
Beat markers: no
Detected beats: no

Other metadata
Regions/markers: no
Command markers: no

Media manager
Media tags: no

Plug-In
Name: compoundplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 13.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\compoundplug
Format: Sony AVC
Version: Version 13.0 (Build 453) 64-bit
Company: Sony Creative Software Inc.

maybe see if you can reproduce the problem.

the file was recorded by the canon S100 camera.

Cornico wrote on 12/3/2016, 10:11 AM

My eyes are not that good as they were before but I don't see blocs or artifarcts in Vegas Pro 14.
I see no difference between Vegas 13 and Vegas 14.
See both screenshots with the properties shown at the preview window

Vegas 13

Vegas 14

The only unusual thing I saw was a dirty window now and than. 😉

NickHope wrote on 12/3/2016, 11:25 AM

I'm not seeing any difference either (VP13 build 453 vs VP14 build 201). The sky is quite noisy because of low light so that is likely to cause pixellation in your renders.

Quitter wrote on 12/3/2016, 11:27 AM

I'm not seeing any difference either (VP13 build 453 vs VP14 build 201). ..

gerdagerd wrote on 12/3/2016, 12:07 PM

thanks guys, thanks cornico for the screenshot. there is no blocking with your version. are you at build 201 as well? does anyone have another suggestion as to what might cause this error as seen in my screenshot, compared to cornico's?

gerdagerd wrote on 12/3/2016, 12:37 PM

okay, reinstall seems to have fixed it, I'll be back if it comes up again! :-D thanks guys :)