Avid Editor Considers Switching to Vegas Pro 10.0

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Laurence wrote on 1/26/2011, 8:36 PM
OK I'll ask: Can I access the timecode on my HDV camera? I haven't been able to so far, but I would love it if I'm just missing something silly.
PeterWright wrote on 1/26/2011, 9:32 PM
Laurence, under Options/Prefs/Video there is
"Show source frame numbers as .... " Select Timecode - this should make the TC visible in the Timeline Event thumbnails.

And, apart from the aforementioned problem with 10.0c, applying Timecode FX in Project Media will make timecode visible in Preview, for producing burned TC to supply to client etc.
Mahesh wrote on 1/27/2011, 4:08 AM
Timecode is lost if media is off-line ( or not present)
Mark Job wrote on 1/28/2011, 5:04 PM
Hi Vegas Pro 10 Users:
I installed the demo version of the software and was happy to discover a fully functioning version of Vegas ! Yay ! I rough cut together a 20 minute fireworks display I shot about 3 years back that I use as test material, which was shot in HDV. I found the Vegas Pro Interface to be very intuitive, and it has a much cleaner, more refined interface than MC. I authored a Blu-ray image for output. I was surprised at how fast the AVCHD encode was ! I would say it's about 3 times faster than doing the same in Avid DVD 6.1.1, or about 4 times faster than encoding using Sorensen Squeeze 5.1. Both Avid DVD and Sorensen yield very excellent results, but they are also unacceptably slow running applications. I found the Blu-ray encoding codec list to be somewhat on the light side, because the Microsoft VC-1 codec was missing from the list. This situation may change if I also download and install the trial version of DVD authoring software which is supposed to come with Vegas Pro 10.x. The VC-1 codec is by far the most superior of all the possible Blu-ray authoring video codecs to use. I plan to burn some Blu-ray BD-RE discs to night to check out playback quality versus the original source material straight out of the camera.

Mark Job
ushere wrote on 1/28/2011, 5:28 PM
thanks for that mark.....

what about the dvd quality relative to avid / sorenson?
PerroneFord wrote on 1/28/2011, 6:12 PM
VC-1 is not supported in Vegas at all. Sorry.
corug7 wrote on 1/28/2011, 8:01 PM
You should be able to render to a compliant VC-1 file. Create an elementary video stream with Windows media by using the Windows media video 9 advanced profile codec. I don't think you can burn it to disc with DVDA though.
rs170a wrote on 1/28/2011, 8:09 PM
I installed the demo version of the software and was happy to discover a fully functioning version of Vegas !

Mark, I'm glad to hear that you liked the demo.

I do have to caution you about one thing though.
If the demo is 10.0b or 10.0c, be aware of the fact that it will NOT read source timecode.
This bug reared it's ugly head with the 10.0c update.
Sony has been made aware of the problem and will hopefully fix it with the next update.
If you do decide to go with Vegas, do what others have done (myself included) and install 10.0a which does not have this bug.

Mike
PerroneFord wrote on 1/28/2011, 8:37 PM
DVDA will not burn a VC-1 disk. And I don't remember seeing a VC-1 encode option in Vegas 9.0x. Maybe it's there in 10, but I don't have it.

DVDA gives options of Mpeg2 or AVC disks only.
ushere wrote on 1/28/2011, 10:04 PM
well there's certainly a media video 9 advanced profile codec there. is this vc-1?

corug7 wrote on 1/29/2011, 7:30 AM
Yes, VC-1 is Windows Media 9 Advance Profile. It offers more efficient encoding, support for interlaced content, and 4:2:0 color space (wmv is progressive only and 4:1:1). I believe you must render a video only stream for it to comply with Blu-Ray specs, but I haven't tested this in any of the authoring apps I use. For what it's worth, I have authored theatre discs for a few features using mpeg-2 and h.264 and dare anyone to point out any flaws in the encodes. However, Vegas really does need to get with the program as far as timecode goes. The fact that I can't render video files with timecode that starts at 01:00:00:00 can be very problematic when working with others.
PerroneFord wrote on 1/29/2011, 8:25 AM
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/howto/articles/vc1techoverview.aspx

This format still cannot be written to Blu-Ray in Vegas or DVDA to my knowledge. Which is a shame really. It's a nice codec.