AX100 24p 100Mbps files

OldSmoke wrote on 3/19/2015, 1:20 PM
In case some want's know how those play on your system, here are two files shot in 4K 24p 100Mbps with my AX100 FW3.0.

Note: I will remove those in a week or so; they take up quite some space.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Comments

VidMus wrote on 3/19/2015, 2:38 PM
How do I download these videos? I can only play them online in a little window.

fldave wrote on 3/19/2015, 4:18 PM
Bottom right, 3 vertical dots, "More Actions", Download

Thanks, OldSmoke!
fldave wrote on 3/19/2015, 4:33 PM
Hmm, Best/Full and Good/Full both 20-23fps in V12. Crappy video card, standard 7200rpm hard drive, no SSD, quad i5, 16GB RAM, reading from a pretty full hard drive. I would probably work with intermediaries.
OldSmoke wrote on 3/19/2015, 4:38 PM
I used Catalyst Browse to convert the files to XAVC MXF format, they become over 200Mbps files but they do play better, especially the 29.97fps version. The uploaded 24fps play fine on my system with straight cuts but a crossfade becomes an issue with fps dropping down to 15fps.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Jedman wrote on 3/19/2015, 11:13 PM
They play really well on my system.
Even with one at 50% opacity on top of the other.

Oldsmoke, can you answer this, (and anyone else who owns one of course).
Here in Aus the ax100 is $1750 atm, the x70 is about $3200,
I need xlr inputs so add on the cost of a beachtek and cold shoe mount adaptor, still well under a $1000 less...
What would you guys get if you were purchasing now?

Sorry if this should be in a new thread, will make one if requested.
xberk wrote on 3/19/2015, 11:21 PM
Hey Thanks. Played well on my i7-3930 ( six core ) system -- Best quality preview no problem. Full frame rate on 5 second overlapped dissolve.

I keep thinking about getting a 4k camera. Would be nice to be able to crop into the frame with no loss of HD quality.
OldSmoke wrote on 3/20/2015, 7:12 AM
Jedman

The X70 has a ton more features especially timecode which the AX100 doesn't offer at all, every clip starts at 0.
There is also the 422 recording, dual slot, SDI, camera profiles, I love the little joystick and I am sure there are a few more. However, if all that isn't important to your work then the AX100 is a very good camera. As for XLR, I have the Beachtek adapter but for long shots, an hour and longer, I would rather get the new XLR-K2M Sony kit because it's powered by the camera battery and fully integrated with the camera.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

megabit wrote on 3/21/2015, 2:07 AM
But they both seem to be 23.976 fps - also, after conversion to XAVC mxf, either's size didn't grow that much - they are 111 and 166 MB, respectively. Plus, after conversion they play slower on my laptop - so our experience, OldSmoke, is quite different. Could it be the files have been replaced by the OP in the meantime (the ones I downloaded are C0010.mp4 and C0012.mp4), or that we're using different Catalyst Browse versions?

As to the timeline performance: they originals play on the very edge of full fps at Best/Full on my System #1, and at crappy 15 fps on my laptop (System #2). I am not surprised about the laptop (a 4 years old machine - Dell flagship M6600 Sandy Bridge), but I AM a bit disappointed with my main editing PC - yes it's old, but i7 at 4.6 GHz plus the GTX 580 (Fermi), I was hoping would perform better...

Now I'm sure I must upgrade not just the graphics card in order to playback on a 4k monitor with full resolution - but entire system (since there is no much faster CPU for the LGA 1155 mobo)... Thanks OP for posting!

Piotr

AMD TR 2990WX CPU | MSI X399 CARBON AC | 64GB RAM@XMP2933  | 2x RTX 2080Ti GPU | 4x 3TB WD Black RAID0 media drive | 3x 1TB NVMe RAID0 cache drive | SSD SATA system drive | AX1600i PSU | Decklink 12G Extreme | Samsung UHD reference monitor (calibrated)

Jedman wrote on 3/21/2015, 2:55 AM
Thanks oldsmoke,
Looks like the x70 is better value compared to building up the ax100, at least if you need xlr anyways. Still not sold on the single ring though......

All I want is my Z5 with the x70/ax100 chip in it, not much to ask is it?


OldSmoke wrote on 3/21/2015, 7:29 AM
@Megabit

i7 means nothing because there are so many variations, the range from 4core to 8core and even variate in the number of PCIe lanes and sockets.
The GTX580, I had two in mys system before, is not as good with OpenCL as the R9 290. However, there isn't much improvement with the R9 290 either. The R9 290 however does better when FXs are applied to the clip. I am still on the fence as what constitutes to a proper 4K editing machine; is a 5960X sufficient or do have to go all the way to a dual Xeon setup and a FirePro W9100; we are talking about close to 10k investment.
I used the latest Catalyst Browse, it can batch convert in the meantime. If you're behave the latest, make sure you select XAVC at the same frame size and fikes should be about twice as big of even bigger when transcoded to MXF. Your fan also try and transcode the files to REC709 with surprisingly good results.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

OldSmoke wrote on 3/21/2015, 7:31 AM
All I want is my Z5 with the x70/ax100 chip in it, not much to ask is it?

I hear you!

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

megabit wrote on 3/21/2015, 12:23 PM
@OldSmoke, I thought you could go and look up which i7 I'm talking about in my system specs :

Piotr

AMD TR 2990WX CPU | MSI X399 CARBON AC | 64GB RAM@XMP2933  | 2x RTX 2080Ti GPU | 4x 3TB WD Black RAID0 media drive | 3x 1TB NVMe RAID0 cache drive | SSD SATA system drive | AX1600i PSU | Decklink 12G Extreme | Samsung UHD reference monitor (calibrated)