B683 : Stability > Stopped taking the Tablets!

Grazie wrote on 7/18/2012, 3:37 AM
Well, I've been editing for nearly 20 hours and have gotten stability that I had before.

I had previously used all the remedies, save ONE: My Graphics tablet.

I have unplugged it, left the driver installed. I have started and stopped B683 countless times; left it unmanned; rendered and generally given it a fair-old Grazie kickin'! Lots of graphics and MXF files; FX-ing; renders to MP4 and MXF and all without ANY crashes or nasties.

Apart from NOT having the Media Manager Pane "painted" with MM, I'm quite happy.



John_Cline wrote on 7/18/2012, 5:07 AM
Curious.... This is a total long shot, but I wonder if some of the people having Vegas problems are using the drivers supplied with their mouse instead of the generic Windows mouse drivers? I don't run the drivers that came with the mouse on any of my machines and I'm one of the ones for which Vegas v11 runs just fine. Like I said, it's total long shot but maybe...
JJKizak wrote on 7/18/2012, 6:46 AM
If Windows 7 doesn't like a driver you will be in trouble. One of my "profound" observations.
Gary James wrote on 7/18/2012, 7:34 AM
Windows 7 64 bit Pro with standard Mouse driver. And I'm one of those who've had numerous SVP v11 problems. That kills that theory. Sorry!
Chienworks wrote on 7/18/2012, 7:40 AM
Just as an aside, it's been my experience that overall, the best device drivers in the world come from Microsoft. Generally, any driver that comes from the device manufacturer is probably going to be about as useful, well behaved, and benign as viruses and trojans.
apit34356 wrote on 7/18/2012, 9:37 AM
I think John is on to something important; just not mouse drivers but I'm wondering about printers with storage or wireless features, or all the camera upload programs,etc.... or Dell or HP etc upload software.......

So many programs are now using MS Net in some form directly or indirectly, Net may not be as stable as believed when large amounts of resources are used.
Marco. wrote on 7/18/2012, 10:05 AM
I've heard about several cases where disabling the Windows tablet service solved stability problems in VP11.
paul_w wrote on 7/18/2012, 10:58 AM
@John_Cline, I was thinking exactly the same thing. Mainly speculation fueled by so many reports of Wacom drivers causing issues. And just taking that one step further, maybe dialog issues like open window, close window (V11 exit crash) may be caused by pointing device driver conflicts and that includes mice.
Its strange you mention this, i was just about to :)
Well, i do think there could be something in it. But where to start.

Laurence wrote on 7/18/2012, 11:19 AM
I have a touchscreen PC. I rarely use the touchscreen except to show off. I'll bet that's my problem.
Laurence wrote on 7/18/2012, 11:25 AM
Grazie, V10 is still stable on your system even with the tablet right? So whatever tablet problems there are must have been introduced with V11. Interesting.
Grazie wrote on 7/18/2012, 12:17 PM
Laurence, that's an affirmatory!

Grazie wrote on 7/18/2012, 12:22 PM
And VP9 too.

ddm wrote on 7/18/2012, 2:40 PM
Just more data to report. I have not had any issues with v11 x64 and I have a tablet installed. It's not a wacom, it's some knockoff that Monoprice sells, works great. The reason I switched from my wacom that I've had for years was a driver issue although I never had any problems with vegas (pre v11), the wacom tablet would just stop working occasionally and I would have to reinstall the driver to get it to working again. I have two mice plugged in as well, for no good reason, and shuttle pro. FYI