Ignore Victor. He didn't get enough attention as a child. You
shouldn't be having this problem. I can seemlessly playback over 24
tracks (stereo) that overlap. Call tech support or let us know what
your system specs and OS are... More info would help.
Good luck.


Yellow wrote:
>>I Hope someone can give me some advice...or help.
>>
>>I recently upgraded...actually replaced...my Vegas Pro
>>(1.0) with Vegas Video (2.0). I mainly did this because
>>Vegas 2.0 has the ability to "Lock Envelopes to Events",
>>which I think is the BEST feature they added.
>>
>>But now...I'm having some problems. I use Vegas to mix
>>entire CDs (in WAV files). Not for video editing or such.
>>So now when I play back my mixes, the songs
>>start "jumping", or "pausing" during play back. It sounds
>>like my hard drive is not reading the WAV files fast
>>enough, and the computer stops to wait for it to catch up.
>>It only does this when it comes to a point where there are
>>2 or more tracks overlapping.
>>
>>It was not having this problem with Vegas 1.0. In fact, I
>>even remember at one point I had 4 tracks (wav files)
>>overlapping and it played them just fine...
>>
>>I'm guessing that maybe it's because I replaced Vegas Pro
>>with Vegas VIDEO 2.0...??? Does Vegas Video 2.0 not work
>>well with mixing WAV files, like Vegas AUDIO does?
>>
>>I thought they were the same thing, except Vegas Video had
>>the ability to add more than one VIDEO TRACK.
>>
>>Can anyone give me some advice.....thanks!
>>
>>-Yellow
>>

>>SordidFraudy is a
>>shady company best known for trying to milk their customers out of
>>every penny, while shamelessly lying to them about the well known
>>limitations in their software...

Victor, didn't you sorta notice that no one gives a ---- about your
opinions around here? We're all too professional and well-informed,
and we are all able to listen to facts rather than outright lies, so
hence, we don't listen to you.

Also, we're capable of something you clearly aren't: Obtaining first-
hand information. If I try a program out for myself, and find it
satisfactory, then nothing in the world can make me wrong about it.
You, on the other hand, simply read the tech specs and decide: "Oh,
what a crappy program" and then go on to bug innocent REGISTERED
users about it, even though no-one listens. Terribly irritating.

I know I've opened Pandora's box by actually replying to one of your
rants, but I can handle that. Do me a favour, though: mail me
personally instead of letting this forum suffer your incompetence.

Peace.

Why are you here then??
Why?
If you only use software that is only up to your standards,how the
hell did you get to this forum???
It sucks so bad that you are degrading yourself by posting here.It
sucks right??You actually like the software I think??HMMM.....
NAAAHH....
I like it for it's speed it gives us folks.As far as recording out of
the program and coming back in..We have never ever needed this to be
an issue{Process and render to new stereo file}Try using stereo stems
internal.Have you looked at sawstudio coming out?Even our techs there
do not mix out.They are doing some serious stuff...but hey.To each
their own.Just keep the post's more helpful to the users who ask for
help.
Victor ..go argue with Bob Lentini..he thinks you are pretty
hillarious and very much nonsense.:-)
See ya at the nuendo site.

P.s. I will say we all have issues with which ever company you use
for your work.Try the news groups and get a shock on Nuendo.
Or really any other horror stories;Vegas for Victor.
None of them are perfect.I say raise the price and you weed out the
amateurs!!!
That sounds bad eh??I heard this actually coming from the mouth of a
worker for a company, i will not say who...
Let us get to work!!!!!!!
Next.

RipTorn wrote:
>>
>>Johan Assholff wrote:
>>
>>>>Victor, didn't you sorta notice that no one gives a ---- about
your
>>>>opinions around here? We're all too professional and well-
informed,
>>>>and we are all able to listen to facts rather than outright lies,
so
>>>>hence, we don't listen to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>You do, Johann Assholff. You read EVERY post of mine, don't you?
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Also, we're capable of something you clearly aren't: Obtaining
>>first-hand information. If I try a program out for myself, and find
it
>>>>satisfactory, then nothing in the world can make me wrong about
it.
>>
>>
>>What do you mean "nothing in the world can make me wrong about it?
>>As I have told you before, you are not a professional working in
audio
>>recording. You are just a groupie, and as such exhibit the
>>prototypical groupie mentality. So, keep kissing ass and paying for
>>your upgrades...
>>Obtaining first hand information? I don't need "first hand
>>information"; I need professional software. Thank God I never paid
a
>>penny for VegasPro. The thing is so shitty, I don't have use for
the
>>FULL cracked Vegas Video release by Zone floating around the
internet
>>as we "speak"!!! Won't even bother downloading that crap...
>>
>>
>>>>You, on the other hand, simply read the tech specs and
decide: "Oh,
>>>>what a crappy program" and then go on to bug innocent REGISTERED
>>>>users about it, even though no-one listens. Terribly irritating.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>How do I know about all the limtations in Vegas? I must confess I
have
>>never given much time to Vegas, but the limtations are so severe
and
>>obvious, that anyone who has ANY experience recording in a
>>professional environment will notice them within 5 minutes.
>>I won't lay hands on software that doesn't have reliable synch
(check
>>Aaron's post; how come he never got an answer?), or that won't let
me
>>punch in/out on the fly. And Vegas exhibits those 2 beautiful
>>attributes (among others...like latency nightmares, no master
fader,
>>no ASIO support, no plugin parameter automation, etc)!!!!
>>I'll just stick to software that allows me to work up to
professional
>>standards...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>I know I've opened Pandora's box by actually replying to one of
your
>>>>rants, but I can handle that. Do me a favour, though: mail me
>>>>personally instead of letting this forum suffer your incompetence.
>>
>>
>>You just can't control yourself; you must come to SordidFraudy's
>>defense. Typical soldier's mindset. I fully understand your
behavior.
>>As far as establishing personal communication with you, sorry, I'm
not
>>interested.
>>
>>
>>
>>Victor.

Rip torn was at least funny.
Victor ,go pick on Frontier for me so they will come up with NT
drivers they promised 2 years ago!!!

RipTorn wrote:
>>
>>Johan Assholff wrote:
>>
>>>>Victor, didn't you sorta notice that no one gives a ---- about
your
>>>>opinions around here? We're all too professional and well-
informed,
>>>>and we are all able to listen to facts rather than outright lies,
so
>>>>hence, we don't listen to you.
>>
>>
>>
>>You do, Johann Assholff. You read EVERY post of mine, don't you?
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Also, we're capable of something you clearly aren't: Obtaining
>>first-hand information. If I try a program out for myself, and find
it
>>>>satisfactory, then nothing in the world can make me wrong about
it.
>>
>>
>>What do you mean "nothing in the world can make me wrong about it?
>>As I have told you before, you are not a professional working in
audio
>>recording. You are just a groupie, and as such exhibit the
>>prototypical groupie mentality. So, keep kissing ass and paying for
>>your upgrades...
>>Obtaining first hand information? I don't need "first hand
>>information"; I need professional software. Thank God I never paid
a
>>penny for VegasPro. The thing is so shitty, I don't have use for
the
>>FULL cracked Vegas Video release by Zone floating around the
internet
>>as we "speak"!!! Won't even bother downloading that crap...
>>
>>
>>>>You, on the other hand, simply read the tech specs and
decide: "Oh,
>>>>what a crappy program" and then go on to bug innocent REGISTERED
>>>>users about it, even though no-one listens. Terribly irritating.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>How do I know about all the limtations in Vegas? I must confess I
have
>>never given much time to Vegas, but the limtations are so severe
and
>>obvious, that anyone who has ANY experience recording in a
>>professional environment will notice them within 5 minutes.
>>I won't lay hands on software that doesn't have reliable synch
(check
>>Aaron's post; how come he never got an answer?), or that won't let
me
>>punch in/out on the fly. And Vegas exhibits those 2 beautiful
>>attributes (among others...like latency nightmares, no master
fader,
>>no ASIO support, no plugin parameter automation, etc)!!!!
>>I'll just stick to software that allows me to work up to
professional
>>standards...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>I know I've opened Pandora's box by actually replying to one of
your
>>>>rants, but I can handle that. Do me a favour, though: mail me
>>>>personally instead of letting this forum suffer your incompetence.
>>
>>
>>You just can't control yourself; you must come to SordidFraudy's
>>defense. Typical soldier's mindset. I fully understand your
behavior.
>>As far as establishing personal communication with you, sorry, I'm
not
>>interested.
>>
>>
>>
>>Victor.

"I don't need first hand information"

"I never paid a penny for VegasPro. "

"FULL cracked Vegas Video release by Zone"

"I must confess I have never given much time to Vegas"

Then what are you doing in this forum, Victor?

Why the SYBIL act?You are not telling anyone something new.Go cry
about Cool edit.They made their poor folks wait
almost a year for an upgrade that was crucial.Cry about PROtools
for their ripping people off for add ons and more expensive add ons.
Digi001 is the joke where they get you to buy and live with 24 trax
with alot of features that are missing till you upgrade for more
dough.This is the standard.HMMM>>>I think I made the greatest point
of all have I not??They charge you for more features to upGRADE!!Do
they suck?Well?
Not better.Old argument...!Many bitch about tools doing this.It is a
slick way of
sucking you in!!!Get IT!!!The snake oil!!
Also the features that Vegas Video/audio have with grouping as such
are not even as intuitive in PROtools.Vegas is really better at this
than Tools as far as efficiency.
You are the groupie for Nuendo!!!HUH???Or just mad because you cannot
afford to own it.Hey...it is a killer program.I love anyone who will
put 5.1 surround sound mixing in their software.Sonic needs to get on
this NOW!!!This is the next big thing.
Preach what you will but do not point at things you are not
experienced at.
Go get that program,but it is not for everyone!
Then wait for YOUR update!!
Nough about this rehashed garbage.We know already!

Veector Harriman wrote:
>>If what you described is all you need, you're better off using
>>the "Audio Montage" feature in Wavelab3...
>>
>>Vegas Video supposed to have same audio feature-set as Vegas Audio,
>>but with shitty software like this, you never know. SordidFraudy is
a
>>shady company best known for trying to milk their customers out of
>>every penny, while shamelessly lying to them about the well known
>>limitations in their software...
>>
>>
>>Victor Harriman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Yellow wrote:
>>>>I Hope someone can give me some advice...or help.
>>>>
>>>>I recently upgraded...actually replaced...my Vegas Pro
>>>>(1.0) with Vegas Video (2.0). I mainly did this because
>>>>Vegas 2.0 has the ability to "Lock Envelopes to Events",
>>>>which I think is the BEST feature they added.
>>>>
>>>>But now...I'm having some problems. I use Vegas to mix
>>>>entire CDs (in WAV files). Not for video editing or such.
>>>>So now when I play back my mixes, the songs
>>>>start "jumping", or "pausing" during play back. It sounds
>>>>like my hard drive is not reading the WAV files fast
>>>>enough, and the computer stops to wait for it to catch up.
>>>>It only does this when it comes to a point where there are
>>>>2 or more tracks overlapping.
>>>>
>>>>It was not having this problem with Vegas 1.0. In fact, I
>>>>even remember at one point I had 4 tracks (wav files)
>>>>overlapping and it played them just fine...
>>>>
>>>>I'm guessing that maybe it's because I replaced Vegas Pro
>>>>with Vegas VIDEO 2.0...??? Does Vegas Video 2.0 not work
>>>>well with mixing WAV files, like Vegas AUDIO does?
>>>>
>>>>I thought they were the same thing, except Vegas Video had
>>>>the ability to add more than one VIDEO TRACK.
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone give me some advice.....thanks!
>>>>
>>>>-Yellow
>>>>

Which, in turn, means that we don't have to listen to what you say,
since you're not serious anyway. You said so. QED. You just made all
your statements in this forum totally lack substance, Victor. All by
yourself.

Geez, the simplicity of some minds...



RipTorn wrote:
>>Dear Johan:
>>I just finished watching a GREAT fight (Mickey Ward vs. Antonio
Diaz)
>>on HBO and I'm waiting for the Prince Hamed fight.
>>I find this forum and people like you very entertaining.
>>Thanks for the attention...
>>
>>Victor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>"I don't need first hand information"
>>>>
>>>>"I never paid a penny for VegasPro. "
>>>>
>>>>"FULL cracked Vegas Video release by Zone"
>>>>
>>>>"I must confess I have never given much time to Vegas"
>>>>
>>>>Then what are you doing in this forum, Victor?

Thanks for the compliments.

Anyway, what I've stated, times and times again, still holds: Your
crusade against Sonic Foundry and their Vegas product has no value.
You won't change any minds, you only make people angry. NOT "because
you're right", but because you're not helping them. You provide
destructive critisism. (aka. whining)

I'm not saying "Victor is bad", I'm saying your arguments lack
substance, and that you're wrong in accusing Sonic Foundry of lying,
ripping off users etc. just because Vegas doesn't meet your
standards. The way in which you have done this also discredits you,
and irritate others.

Look, Victor. Vegas doesn't suck, Sonic Foundry doesn't lie. Simple
as that. Their products might not be suitable for YOUR personal
needs, but that's something you'll have to deal with yourself, rather
than make it the problem of the entire Sonic Foundry forum.

NOW do you get it?

RipTorn wrote:
>>Dear Johan:
>>
>>It wasn't your obligation to listen, EVER. It was your choice.
>>But you are a nice enough guy, just a little foolish in trying to
>>justify Vegas' obvious shortcomings by saying "Victor is bad".
Accept
>>the truth and your blood pressure will go back to normal.
>>
>>Victor.
>>
>>PS: Prince Hamed won in spectacular fashion after a rough start,
but
>>the true test of his skill will come when he faces either Marco
>>Antonio Barrera or Eric Morales.
>>Best fight on the horizon: Vargas vs Trinidad. December 2nd. Enjoy!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>Which, in turn, means that we don't have to listen to what you
say,
>>>>since you're not serious anyway. You said so. QED. You just made
all
>>>>your statements in this forum totally lack substance, Victor. All
by
>>>>yourself.
>>>>
>>>>Geez, the simplicity of some minds...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>RipTorn wrote:
>>>>>>Dear Johan:
>>>>>>I just finished watching a GREAT fight (Mickey Ward vs. Antonio
>>>>Diaz)
>>>>>>on HBO and I'm waiting for the Prince Hamed fight.
>>>>>>I find this forum and people like you very entertaining.
>>>>>>Thanks for the attention...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Victor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>"I don't need first hand information"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"I never paid a penny for VegasPro. "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"FULL cracked Vegas Video release by Zone"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"I must confess I have never given much time to Vegas"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Then what are you doing in this forum, Victor?

Read the post above and yea shall understand the non sense that is
being said here.Again if you do not like the program,go to YOur forum
and praise the great program of YOUR choice.You do not help others
here like Johan states.This is fact.I do not dislike you,you just
annoy everyone because you have no valid reason to be here.Like the
noisy neighbor you have to call the cops on once a week.
DO YOU Help others here!!???
NO.You do not own the product!!
What if we all go to YOUR choice forum and bash them down everytime a
person has a question with stupid answers that make us look
goofy."Yes I will listen to this guy"!!
NOT.
Having this forum is nice to talk with folks who enjoy the product
and express needs to enhance it.
Again no major complaints.Just go to your forum and help those folks
with good constructive help if you actually own YOUR favorite program.
Your ideas and help could be used I am sure.
That would be nice to the good folks who come here to talk
constructive talk.
I would appreciate it myself.Thanx.


RipTorn wrote:
>>Johan:
>>
>>
>>
>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>Thanks for the compliments.
>>
>>
>>You're welcome...
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, what I've stated, times and times again, still holds:
Your
>>>>crusade against Sonic Foundry and their Vegas product has no
value.
>>>>You won't change any minds, you only make people angry.
NOT "because
>>>>you're right", but because you're not helping them. You provide
>>>>destructive critisism. (aka. whining)
>>
>>
>>
>>Who told you I want to change anyone's mind? I give you the the
>>FACTS, and you use them at your discretion. Have you noticed how my
>>points are NEVER refuted? Because they are LEGITIMATE.
>>But I'll agree with you: the truth has a way of making people angry.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>I'm not saying "Victor is bad", I'm saying your arguments lack
>>>>substance, and that you're wrong in accusing Sonic Foundry of
lying,
>>>>ripping off users etc. just because Vegas doesn't meet your
>>>>standards. The way in which you have done this also discredits
you,
>>>>and irritate others.>>
>>
>>
>>You, like me and everyone else, have 2 choices when presented with
an
>>argument that can't be refuted:
>>1. Accept it.
>>2. Deny it.
>>You choose #2, and in doing so, condemn yourself to going thru
>>contortions to justify Vegas' glaring limitations. Result? No
>>refutations, just cries of "Victor, you're bad" "Victor, you make
>>people angry" "Victor, go away", "Victor, we hate you", "Victor,
you
>>have the wrong attitude", "Victor, we won't listen to you..." ( but
>>SOMEHOW you always listen!). Check ALL your OWN posts. Have you
EVER
>>come close to refuting ANY of my points? In fact, last time you
>>tried to defend SordidFraudy's lack of ASIO support, Peter Haller
had
>>to tell you, HIS DEFENDER, to back off because you didn't know what
>>you were talking about!!! Isn't this true? Very sad, Johan...
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Look, Victor. Vegas doesn't suck, Sonic Foundry doesn't lie.
Simple
>>>>as that. Their products might not be suitable for YOUR personal
>>>>needs, but that's something you'll have to deal with yourself,
>>rather than make it the problem of the entire Sonic Foundry forum.
>>
>>
>>SordidFraudy DOES lie. I proved it MANY times. Ask Aaron Carey
about
>>his experience trying to report a bug and Peter Haller's ULTRA-
PHONY
>>explanation... Why hasn't Aaron's post on SYNCH been addressed by
>>SordidFraudy? How come my posts get IMMEDIATE ATTENTION? Because I
>>bring BALANCE to this forum. My posts give people the opportunity
to
>>know they have options...
>>
>>How dumb can you be? Don't you realize that if there were no
substance
>>to my arguments, if I were just some crazy person ranting and lying
>>about VegasPro and its limitations, SordidFraudy wouldn't feel
>>compelled to erase my posts? I'm dangerous ONLY because I know what
>>I'm talking about...
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>NOW do you get it?
>>
>>Get what? That you are in denial? I knew it since your first
answer.
>>Johan.
>>
>>
>>
>>Victor.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>RipTorn wrote:
>>>>>>Dear Johan:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It wasn't your obligation to listen, EVER. It was your choice.
>>>>>>But you are a nice enough guy, just a little foolish in trying
to
>>>>>>justify Vegas' obvious shortcomings by saying "Victor is bad".
>>>>Accept
>>>>>>the truth and your blood pressure will go back to normal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Victor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS: Prince Hamed won in spectacular fashion after a rough
start,
>>>>but
>>>>>>the true test of his skill will come when he faces either Marco
>>>>>>Antonio Barrera or Eric Morales.
>>>>>>Best fight on the horizon: Vargas vs Trinidad. December 2nd.
>>Enjoy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>Which, in turn, means that we don't have to listen to what
you
>>>>say,
>>>>>>>>since you're not serious anyway. You said so. QED. You just
made
>>>>all
>>>>>>>>your statements in this forum totally lack substance, Victor.
>>All
>>>>by
>>>>>>>>yourself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Geez, the simplicity of some minds...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>RipTorn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Dear Johan:
>>>>>>>>>>I just finished watching a GREAT fight (Mickey Ward vs.
>>Antonio
>>>>>>>>Diaz)
>>>>>>>>>>on HBO and I'm waiting for the Prince Hamed fight.
>>>>>>>>>>I find this forum and people like you very entertaining.
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the attention...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Victor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>"I don't need first hand information"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"I never paid a penny for VegasPro. "
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"FULL cracked Vegas Video release by Zone"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"I must confess I have never given much time to Vegas"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Then what are you doing in this forum, Victor?

Why do you always overdramatize? If there's anyone with a high blood-
pressure, it's not yours truly, I can tell you.

I'm not Sonic Foundry's defender, I'm their customer (in contrast to
you, who seems to be their self-appointed executioner) I'm just
trying to make a point: You irritate people. I simply beg of you to
use a more civilized tone.

Your points on ASIO and all that stuff are DEBATABLE, not
unrefutable. I simply consider it pointless to argue further, as
Sonic Foundry will solve the problems all by themselves, without our
assistance.

Oh, and don't flatter yourself. The only one who actually seems to
give a crap about your opinion except yourself is yours truly, for
the same reason you yourself claimed what the sole purpose of your
presence in the forum: I find it amusing. However, this is also why I
suggested we should move the discussion somewhere else, as we're
constantly slipping outside the purpose of this forum. It's your
call, I'm here to discuss Vegas with my fellow users, you're here to
boost your ego.

This is where we differ, Victor. You scream and shout for all the
features in the world like a spoiled child: I simply act on what I
need for my work, make a decision, and make the best out of it.

Anyway. To sum it up, my wish has always been for professionals to
behave like professionals, and I'm doing my best to explain that
you're not behaving like one at the moment, with insults, coarse
language, fake identities and false accusations. But, to quote Ellie
Arroway from Contact, that continues to be my wish.

Tata for now, have a deadline in about 3 hours, then I've gotta rig
the new gear up, got a new co-worker moving in tonight. Don't bother
to reply.

See ya!

/ Affe
www.outforce.com
www.o3games.com

Quote of the week:

"I don't need first hand information" / Victor Harriman

bon ben... c'est quand que tout ce joli monde se fout sur la gueule
qu'on en finisse pour de bon ???


Johan Althoff wrote:
>>Why do you always overdramatize? If there's anyone with a high
blood-
>>pressure, it's not yours truly, I can tell you.
>>
>>I'm not Sonic Foundry's defender, I'm their customer (in contrast
to
>>you, who seems to be their self-appointed executioner) I'm just
>>trying to make a point: You irritate people. I simply beg of you to
>>use a more civilized tone.
>>
>>Your points on ASIO and all that stuff are DEBATABLE, not
>>unrefutable. I simply consider it pointless to argue further, as
>>Sonic Foundry will solve the problems all by themselves, without
our
>>assistance.
>>
>>Oh, and don't flatter yourself. The only one who actually seems to
>>give a crap about your opinion except yourself is yours truly, for
>>the same reason you yourself claimed what the sole purpose of your
>>presence in the forum: I find it amusing. However, this is also why
I
>>suggested we should move the discussion somewhere else, as we're
>>constantly slipping outside the purpose of this forum. It's your
>>call, I'm here to discuss Vegas with my fellow users, you're here
to
>>boost your ego.
>>
>>This is where we differ, Victor. You scream and shout for all the
>>features in the world like a spoiled child: I simply act on what I
>>need for my work, make a decision, and make the best out of it.
>>
>>Anyway. To sum it up, my wish has always been for professionals to
>>behave like professionals, and I'm doing my best to explain that
>>you're not behaving like one at the moment, with insults, coarse
>>language, fake identities and false accusations. But, to quote
Ellie
>>Arroway from Contact, that continues to be my wish.
>>
>>Tata for now, have a deadline in about 3 hours, then I've gotta rig
>>the new gear up, got a new co-worker moving in tonight. Don't
bother
>>to reply.
>>
>>See ya!
>>
>>/ Affe
>>www.outforce.com
>>www.o3games.com
>>
>>Quote of the week:
>>
>>"I don't need first hand information" / Victor Harriman
>>
>>

There was a message here, but it had nothing with Vegas or this forum
so I deleted it.

There was a message here, but it had nothing with Vegas or this forum
so I deleted it.

I'm glad many of you like Vegas and use it for your projects.

For those of you who have problems with Vegas, or insist on
evangelizing other products in this Forum: Please understand that we
do take user feedback seriously, and we'll continue to incorporate as
many legitimate user suggestions as we can into the product as it
evolves. Perhaps, someday, we can count you as a convert.

In the meantime a very dedicated team is continuously working on
stability, new features, and improving the overall user experience
for all Sonic Foundry products. We ARE paying attention to our
customers...

Lastly, nobody from SF is lying or purposely making misleading
statements. If anybody gets nasty or insulting, your post will get
CHUCKED.

David Hill
Engineering Project Manager
www.sonicfoundry.com

David W. Ruby wrote:
>>Read the post above and yea shall understand the non sense that is
>>being said here.Again if you do not like the program,go to YOur
forum
>>and praise the great program of YOUR choice.You do not help others
>>here like Johan states.This is fact.I do not dislike you,you just
>>annoy everyone because you have no valid reason to be here.Like the
>>noisy neighbor you have to call the cops on once a week.
>>DO YOU Help others here!!???
>>NO.You do not own the product!!
>>What if we all go to YOUR choice forum and bash them down everytime
a
>>person has a question with stupid answers that make us look
>>goofy."Yes I will listen to this guy"!!
>>NOT.
>>Having this forum is nice to talk with folks who enjoy the product
>>and express needs to enhance it.
>>Again no major complaints.Just go to your forum and help those
folks
>>with good constructive help if you actually own YOUR favorite
program.
>>Your ideas and help could be used I am sure.
>>That would be nice to the good folks who come here to talk
>>constructive talk.
>>I would appreciate it myself.Thanx.
>>
>>
>>RipTorn wrote:
>>>>Johan:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>>>Thanks for the compliments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You're welcome...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyway, what I've stated, times and times again, still holds:
>>Your
>>>>>>crusade against Sonic Foundry and their Vegas product has no
>>value.
>>>>>>You won't change any minds, you only make people angry.
>>NOT "because
>>>>>>you're right", but because you're not helping them. You provide
>>>>>>destructive critisism. (aka. whining)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Who told you I want to change anyone's mind? I give you the the
>>>>FACTS, and you use them at your discretion. Have you noticed how
my
>>>>points are NEVER refuted? Because they are LEGITIMATE.
>>>>But I'll agree with you: the truth has a way of making people
angry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying "Victor is bad", I'm saying your arguments lack
>>>>>>substance, and that you're wrong in accusing Sonic Foundry of
>>lying,
>>>>>>ripping off users etc. just because Vegas doesn't meet your
>>>>>>standards. The way in which you have done this also discredits
>>you,
>>>>>>and irritate others.>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You, like me and everyone else, have 2 choices when presented
with
>>an
>>>>argument that can't be refuted:
>>>>1. Accept it.
>>>>2. Deny it.
>>>>You choose #2, and in doing so, condemn yourself to going thru
>>>>contortions to justify Vegas' glaring limitations. Result? No
>>>>refutations, just cries of "Victor, you're bad" "Victor, you make
>>>>people angry" "Victor, go away", "Victor, we hate you", "Victor,
>>you
>>>>have the wrong attitude", "Victor, we won't listen to you..." (
but
>>>>SOMEHOW you always listen!). Check ALL your OWN posts. Have you
>>EVER
>>>>come close to refuting ANY of my points? In fact, last time you
>>>>tried to defend SordidFraudy's lack of ASIO support, Peter Haller
>>had
>>>>to tell you, HIS DEFENDER, to back off because you didn't know
what
>>>>you were talking about!!! Isn't this true? Very sad, Johan...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look, Victor. Vegas doesn't suck, Sonic Foundry doesn't lie.
>>Simple
>>>>>>as that. Their products might not be suitable for YOUR personal
>>>>>>needs, but that's something you'll have to deal with yourself,
>>>>rather than make it the problem of the entire Sonic Foundry
forum.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>SordidFraudy DOES lie. I proved it MANY times. Ask Aaron Carey
>>about
>>>>his experience trying to report a bug and Peter Haller's ULTRA-
>>PHONY
>>>>explanation... Why hasn't Aaron's post on SYNCH been addressed by
>>>>SordidFraudy? How come my posts get IMMEDIATE ATTENTION? Because
I
>>>>bring BALANCE to this forum. My posts give people the opportunity
>>to
>>>>know they have options...
>>>>
>>>>How dumb can you be? Don't you realize that if there were no
>>substance
>>>>to my arguments, if I were just some crazy person ranting and
lying
>>>>about VegasPro and its limitations, SordidFraudy wouldn't feel
>>>>compelled to erase my posts? I'm dangerous ONLY because I know
what
>>>>I'm talking about...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>NOW do you get it?
>>>>
>>>>Get what? That you are in denial? I knew it since your first
>>answer.
>>>>Johan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Victor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>RipTorn wrote:
>>>>>>>>Dear Johan:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It wasn't your obligation to listen, EVER. It was your choice.
>>>>>>>>But you are a nice enough guy, just a little foolish in
trying
>>to
>>>>>>>>justify Vegas' obvious shortcomings by saying "Victor is
bad".
>>>>>>Accept
>>>>>>>>the truth and your blood pressure will go back to normal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Victor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>PS: Prince Hamed won in spectacular fashion after a rough
>>start,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>the true test of his skill will come when he faces either
Marco
>>>>>>>>Antonio Barrera or Eric Morales.
>>>>>>>>Best fight on the horizon: Vargas vs Trinidad. December 2nd.
>>>>Enjoy!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Which, in turn, means that we don't have to listen to what
>>you
>>>>>>say,
>>>>>>>>>>since you're not serious anyway. You said so. QED. You just
>>made
>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>your statements in this forum totally lack substance,
Victor.
>>>>All
>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Geez, the simplicity of some minds...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>RipTorn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Dear Johan:
>>>>>>>>>>>>I just finished watching a GREAT fight (Mickey Ward vs.
>>>>Antonio
>>>>>>>>>>Diaz)
>>>>>>>>>>>>on HBO and I'm waiting for the Prince Hamed fight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>I find this forum and people like you very entertaining.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the attention...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Victor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Johan Althoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"I don't need first hand information"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"I never paid a penny for VegasPro. "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"FULL cracked Vegas Video release by Zone"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"I must confess I have never given much time to Vegas"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Then what are you doing in this forum, Victor?