BCC Title Studio renders at half speed

Kenton-Zahrt wrote on 1/29/2022, 6:22 PM

Vegas Pro 19.0, Boris FX Title Studio (Continuum 2021.5), Windows 10 Pro 64, HP Z640 workstation, NVIDIA Quadro P600

I have created a BCC Title Studio project at 1920 x 1080 and 59.94 fps that consists of a "bouncing ball" moving over some text. I've incorporated this into a Vegas Pro project that is also at 1920 x 1080 and 59.94 fps, by placing a solid color generated media clip into a video track and then specifying the BCC Title Studio project as its FX. There is a single audio track that I've synchronized with the bouncing ball.

This previews very nicely in Vegas Pro, but when I render it into a 1920 x 1080 and 29.97 fps mp4, the video plays at 1/2 speed, regardless of which of several rendering engines I've used. However, if I render to 59.94 fps, the mp4 plays just fine.

I've tried both creating and editing my Title Studio projects in Continuum both stand-alone and launched from within Vegas Pro and get the same symptoms regardless of which I use.

I have NOT tried creating either the Title Studio or Vegas Pro project at 29.97 fps, as I would like to do my creating and editing at the higher rate.

Any idea what's going on?

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Former user wrote on 1/29/2022, 6:45 PM

@Kenton-Zahrt Hi, Can you go to your icon at the top, click it - My Profile, & fill in your Signature with your Vegas version, Windows version & system specs, CPU, GPU, RAM etc. I know you've put that info in your comment but this will then show at the bottom of the comments & will help people help you without having to scroll up & you won't ever have to type it again 👍

Quadro P600 GPU Memory is only 2GB GDDR5, do you know what CPU is in that workstation? right click on the Start on the desktop - Device Manager, it'll show in Processors

Why set the project at 59.94 but then render at 29.97, there's your problem,

If you want to work in 59,94 fine but render out at 59.94, then if you want it to be 29.97, re-import that render clip & then re-render at 29.97.

It's basically the x2 difference in fps 59.94 vs 29.97

Are there keyframes involved in Title Studio,? if so there's a way to fix that.

Former user wrote on 1/29/2022, 6:50 PM

@Kenton-Zahrt If you don't know there's a tool in - Start - Windows Accessories - Snipping Tool,

this will let you capture a full screen grab or a selected rectangle, post a full screen capture of the Title Studio screen & Vegas using the arrow next to the smiley at the top of a new comment,

Kenton-Zahrt wrote on 1/29/2022, 7:40 PM

Thanks, Gid. As you probably surmised, I'm a first-time poster here. Set up my signature, thx.

Sometimes the motion of the ball (a png file) gets pretty fast and I'd like to be able to be able to track it better. Would like to render to 59.97, but probably won't be able to. I've not worked at 59.94 before and decided to use this project as a guinea pig to see how it would work out as I think it would help in some other videos I'm doing. I was not expecting this kind of an issue.

Is not being able to render at a different configuration than what you're working in common among video editors? I've not had this problem b4, but this is the 1st time I've worked at 59.94.

Yes, there are keyframes in Title Studio. One for each inflection point of the bouncing ball's travel across the screen, plus some others. The version I've posted here is about 1/2 done.

The user markers are there as guides to stay in time with the music.

Former user wrote on 1/29/2022, 9:17 PM

@Kenton-Zahrt Forgive me if you already know the things i mention 👍 & i was playing with Vegas while writing this .. 😁

In the Project settings i don't have 1920x1080 59.94fps, so you must have set it at 59.94fps, that's no prob 👍

When you come to render, choose the format you want, I use Magix AVC/AAC 1920x1080 (NVENC) , at the bottom you have a box Customize Template, in there you will be able to change the fps from 29.97fps to 59.94 just like your project, 👍

In Title Studio (TS) you can Add Rigid Run, (the grey bar at the top of the keyframe timeline) this locks the keyframes into position back in Vegas, if you for eg. create a 1min clip & add a TS text that has rigid run inc, that text comes in half way through the min clip - 30secs in, then you stretch the 1min clip to 1min, 10mins or whatever, that text will still only come in 30secs in 👍 You would still have to render the same as the project fps,

I might be talking bull about 29fps vs 59fps 🤷‍♂️, but i put a 1min green solid on the timeline in Vegas, 1920x1080 59.94 project size, & then rendered at 29.97fps, the rendered out file was only 0.33secs long,

But !!.. you say- 'Is not being able to render at a different configuration than what you're working in common among video editors?' Yes i do it quite a lot, I record my screen to post videos on here, that records at 3840x2160 60fps, to reduce file size i edit in Vegas & render out at 1920x1080 29.97fps, i have no problem with it, the video isn't speeded up or slowed down,

When i drag the 60fps screen captured video onto a 1920x1080 project, i normally choose the yes Fit project to media option, but if i choose no & i render at 29.97fps it doesn't make a difference, i don't end up getting a video twice as fast or as slow 🤷‍♂️

One thing i've noticed about Title Studio for me is, if i add it to a picture, png, jpg, generated solid etc. TS doesn't work very well, it's a bit slow, but if i add it to a video clip it works fine,, So maybe you could render the green solid as an mp4 at 59.94fps, then use that to put TS on, then when you go to render it doesn't slow down,

Here, 1st on the timeline i created a 1min green solid from the media generator tab in a 59,95 project, The second on the timeline is the solid rendered mp4 at 59.94, the third on the timeline is that 59.94 mp4 rendered at 29.97, all done from the 59.94 project, you can see they're the same size

 

Later..

If all this makes sense you're a better person than me, because like i say i'm playing with Vegas while writing & i just created a 1min red solid in a 59.94 project, rendered it at 29.97, it came out 1mins long, not 33mins like the green one before did, 🤷‍♂️ Sorry dunno 🤷‍♂️ 3am my brain has stopped 🙃🤸‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂

There's no harm creating your project at 59.94fps, rendering at 59.94fps & then leaving it at that, There's no need to make it 29.97fps unless you have a reason?