Beginning & End of Clip?

scubatv wrote on 11/1/2003, 11:12 AM

I'm reading the 4.0 manual and searching help, but I still canT find out, using the key board, how do we get to the beginning and end of a clip?
Actually, I can't get there at all.

How, using the keyboard, do we get to the in and out points?

In Premiere, it clearly states, use these key, and go to beginning of clip, stuff like that. I'm having a hard time reading the directions.

Thanks for your help, I'm honestly trying here.
Jon

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Liam_Vegas wrote on 11/1/2003, 12:57 PM

.... how about the "[" and "]" keys?

I'm pretty new to this myself... but I think I already figured out how easy this stuff is already.

scubatv wrote on 11/1/2003, 12:59 PM

Thanks, you're a pal.
But, why I could not find that in the manual or in the help, even now knowing what I'm looking for, I'll never know.
Do you know how to get to the IN and OUT point.
Thanks.

GaryKleiner wrote on 11/1/2003, 1:07 PM

Scuba TV: Check Help>Keyboard shortcuts

Liam__Vegas: Yes, you are very special for figuring something out yourself, but do not belittle someone else for asking.

Gary

vitalforces wrote on 11/1/2003, 1:08 PM

Left & right bracket keys. See my other post replying to your "More" post. Like the man said in Matrix II: Welcome to Zion.

Liam_Vegas wrote on 11/1/2003, 3:11 PM

Okay dokey.

Consider me well and truly slapped up the side of my face.

Cheers!

Actually I was making a simple statement that was an opposing view to scubatv that I thought was relevant. I am not an expert at this... but I did manage to figure out suich things without making comparisons with just how easy something is done in Premier. When in reality .. the thing is very easy to do in Vegas also.

My statement stands... this is a very easy to use system... and very easy to get used to. Perhaps there are some diificulties moving from the comfort and knowledge of a systemn you are familiar with to a system that you are not. However that simply means that you do need to expect there to be some learning curve to go through. Does that mean a system is not easy to use?

StormMarc wrote on 11/1/2003, 4:26 PM

Jon,

Create in and out points on the timeline by pressing the I and O keys and then use the home and end keys to get to the in and out points. Note: this does not work when in the "colapse loop regions when no time selection is present" mode set in the editing preferences (I hope Sony will improve this).

If you want to navigate through the timeline to edit points between clips you can hit the numeric keypad 7 or 9 keys and the [ or ] keys. The problem with that is that it puts you in trim mode which you must hit the 5 (numeric) key to exit trim mode if you want to play footage on the timeline.

Alternativly you can use ctrl + alt + left and right arrows keys to navigate edit points without going into the trim mode.

Marc

scubatv wrote on 11/4/2003, 8:01 AM

Thank you everyone for all your help and time.

Regarding the IN and OUT points.
In my project, the HOME and END keys move the edit line to the beginning and end of the whole project.
Even though I've unchecked "collapse loop regions when no time selection is present" I still can not move the edit line the IN and OUT point.
Sorry for the trouble,
Jon

Udi wrote on 11/4/2003, 8:36 AM

The '[' and ']' will get you there, but will enter "EDGE TRIMMING" mode.
You can use the ctrl-alt keys with the left/right arrow keys.

Udi

StormMarc wrote on 11/4/2003, 11:50 AM

Jon,

There needs to be a highlighted selection first (drag the cursor on the top of the timeline to make one). Now hit the home and end keys. As soon as you lose your selection it will jump to the front and back of the project.

Tips:

1. Double click a clip to make a quick selection of the clip length only.
2. Push the shift key and press your page up/down keys to expand or contract your selections in grid increments (determained by your grid spacing settings - Options > grid spacing).
3. Also Shift + left/right arrow keys will make pixel movements (depending on your zoom level) and shift + alt + left/right arrow keys will make 1 frame movements.

Also did you try this below?

"If you want to navigate through the timeline to edit points between clips you can hit the numeric keypad 7 or 9 keys and the [ or ] keys. The problem with that is that it puts you in trim mode which you must hit the 5 (numeric) key to exit trim mode if you want to play footage on the timeline.

Alternativly you can use ctrl + alt + left and right arrows keys to navigate edit points without going into the trim mode."

(Note: It will move to the edit line of your selected track but the focus needs to be on the timeline after you select the track or it will move the track opacity slider. ) Alt + 0 will give timeline focus or just click on a clip in the timeline which will give that track selection priority as well.

Keep going... Vegas is worth the trouble. I rarely use my Storm/Premiere system now and when I do it's painful.

Marc