Best settings for Re-use

occfilms wrote on 11/4/2013, 8:57 PM
Hi Everyone,

Quick question that I hope someone can help me with. I use Sony Vegas Platinum Pro 9. I was wondering what are the best render settings for re-using clips in later projects? Without loosing quality.

For instance...I shot a timelapse today with my GoPro. I brought it into Vegas, did some colour correcting and cropping and...wanted to save it for later use. (I know I want it for a project but I am not sure what that project is yet) I just don't know how to do this. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks a bunch in advance...

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Steve Grisetti wrote on 11/5/2013, 7:23 AM
It depends on whether you're going to use your output video in a standard definition or high-definition project.

As I show you in version 11 and 12 books, for standard definition video you should use the Render As for Video for Windows (AVI) with the DV or DVD Widescreen template.

For an AVCHD high-def project, you should use Sony AVC with the 1920x1080 60i (or 50i for PAL) template.

I don't know if these outputs are both available in version 9. But these two outputs will work beautifully in a Movie Studio project.

occfilms wrote on 11/5/2013, 3:23 PM
So Render as then whatever template best fits my output and then just select a folder to save in for future use?

Thanks a bunch for taking the time to answer!
Chienworks wrote on 11/5/2013, 4:01 PM
Use the smallest amount of compression you can afford to keep the quality as high as possible with minimum data loss.

DV is only a good choice for SD material if your original files are DV, and even then it's iffy if you've applied effects and corrections. I've used MPEG2/MP4 with bitrates of 15Mbps and gotten much better results than DV.

For HD material you probably want to start at 30Mbps and work up from there. While i like the smoothness of MXF playback, in this range, the bitrate used plays a far, far bigger role than the codec or file type. Any codec will give a good result at minimal compression.
occfilms wrote on 11/5/2013, 11:42 PM
I shoot my footage with a Nikon D5100 DSLR and a GoPro Hero 3. Haven't used DV in a long time. Also, what do you mean by MXF...I don't know much when it comes to file sizes or best saving/exporting setting and I know even less about video compression ect. usually I use .avi or .mov at 720x1280 to save my files...but like I said I'm just trying to figure out how best to save colour corrected files for later use. Haven't had a chance to get on my editing software today but I will try out the "render as" settings I was told about earlier.

Side question on that...my software usually wants to save rendered files deep inside the Sony Vegas folder that was created during install...if Im saving for later use, is it ok for me to designate a different folder (say perhaps in my video folders) thats easier to access?

Thanks again.
Steve Grisetti wrote on 11/6/2013, 7:51 AM
>f Im saving for later use, is it ok for me to designate a different folder (say perhaps in my video folders) thats easier to access?

Absolutely!
Chienworks wrote on 11/6/2013, 10:05 AM
Hmmm. Maybe MXF isn't available in the Studio version. In the Pro version under Render As, one of the types available is Sony MXF.

The problem with AVI is that except for uncompressed, which is enormous, most of the available codecs really haven't kept up with the times and all take shortcuts and quality hits that may have been considered necessary 5 or 10 years ago due to slower processors, smaller drives, and slower data connections, but aren't anymore. MPEG2 has usually been better than most any codecs available in the AVI container, while MP4/AVC/MXF are far superior. There is lagarith for AVI, which is a very gentle lossless data compression which produces files about half the size of uncompressed, but MP4/AVC can deliver near indistinguishable quality at a fraction of the size. MXF is probably only worth the file size for HD files, but it will be far better than DV at about the same size as DV when used with SD files.

Save the files anywhere you want. I never use the predefined Vegas or Windows folders for anything. I create a new folder on one of my hard drives for each project and put everything related to that project there, such as F:\julias_wedding\, F:\movie_night_advertisement\, H:\fall_foliage_2013\, etc.
occfilms wrote on 11/7/2013, 4:48 PM
I have been hoping to upgrade to a pro version but will have to work with what I got for now. No Sony MXF. I believe I got what I came here for and I want to thank you guys for your help.

I am wondering though....you mention AVI, MP4/AVC ect... how does .MOV or (the one I've been using) .WMV at 6Mbps HD 720-30p stack up to them? Are these same as or worst then AVI, AVC, MP4?