Big Project - Big Render Time - Advice?

COBRAHAZE wrote on 3/23/2022, 12:14 PM

Hello guys,

 

I plan on creating and hopefully rendering out a video project which will be 40 hours long in 1080p and .mp4 format.

 

before I begin the project do you think I can do it with my computers specs and will there be any issues or problems in me trying this, I guess what I am trying to say will vegas be able to do this without crashing on me?.

I would appreciate any feedback or advice from anyone as I am a newbie to rendering out any video projects above 1 hours long.

My PC Specs Below:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor - 3.20 GHz

GPU: ASUS PH-GT1030-O2G

RAM: 16GB DDR4

OS: Windows 10 Pro

HARDDRIVE: 2TB STORAGE

 

Any advise feedback or tips would be appreciated as I do not want to start this project unless I know vegas will be able to render it out without crashing or fingers crossed any issues which would be limited by my hardware etc

 

Thanks

 

Cobrahaze

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fr0sty wrote on 3/23/2022, 12:16 PM

If you have any issues, try to export the project in segments, say 5 hours or so, at a time, then combine those into one big video file at the end.

What's the need to make a project that long? Who is going to sit in front of a screen for 40 hours watching it?

COBRAHAZE wrote on 3/23/2022, 12:21 PM

If you have any issues, try to export the project in segments, say 5 hours or so, at a time, then combine those into one big video file at the end.

What's the need to make a project that long? Who is going to sit in front of a screen for 40 hours watching it?

Hello frosty thank you for the quick reply, if I render out 5 hours at a time then what software could I use to combine the 8 five hour segments together? I thought it would be simpler just to render out the whole thing as one 40 hour long video in Vegas.

Have you ever used Vegas to render out any very long video projects? if yes did it all render without any crashes or issues?

diverG wrote on 3/23/2022, 12:54 PM

Try google. Plenty of 'free video joining software' out there. May be produce a few short files & test before committing a lot of rendering effort. Don't forget you can have several instances of Vegas open so parallel rendering is possible. Just make sure you have room on your disks for your masterpiece.

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COBRAHAZE wrote on 3/23/2022, 1:09 PM

Try google. Plenty of 'free video joining software' out there. May be produce a few short files & test before committing a lot of rendering effort. Don't forget you can have several instances of Vegas open so parallel rendering is possible. Just make sure you have room on your disks for your masterpiece.

Thanks for the response diverG I appreciate it, I was unsure about purchasing vegas but I think after the responses I will give it a crack.

Anymore responses will still be appreciated I just purchased a portable 2TB harddrive for the project as I am guessing the file is going to be very big.

A side question, can vegas render to external harddrives?

Yelandkeil wrote on 3/23/2022, 1:15 PM

Dear friend, that that graphic card with 2GB-RAM is one dangerous thing and the other:

A TV-Sender's program, very commonly, has the size of ca. 450MB for ca. 30min.

Say, 1min-size=15MB

40hours=2.400min=15x2400=36.000MB=ca. 36GB

It seems you need something more to execute your plan, in short, you have the wrong worry about.

 

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COBRAHAZE wrote on 3/23/2022, 2:19 PM

Dear friend, that that graphic card with 2GB-RAM is one dangerous thing and the other:

A TV-Sender's program, very commonly, has the size of ca. 450MB for ca. 30min.

Say, 1min-size=15MB

40hours=2.400min=15x2400=36.000MB=ca. 36GB

It seems you need something more to execute your plan, in short, you have the wrong worry about.

 

 

Hello Yelandkeil thank you for your reply,

Which graphics card would you recommend?

Is my GPU too weak for basic editing such as adding text, my project will mainly contain royalty free clips with basic transitions and text nothing more.. very vanilla

fr0sty wrote on 3/23/2022, 5:08 PM

You use VEGAS to recombine the clips, just drop the rendered clips back on the timeline and render them together. Doing this reduces any effects/text etc processing down to 5 hour increments (or less, you can try lower and lower until it works). That's assuming your system can't handle the job as it is now.

COBRAHAZE wrote on 3/23/2022, 5:10 PM

You use VEGAS to recombine the clips, just drop the rendered clips back on the timeline and render them together. Doing this reduces any effects/text etc processing down to 5 hour increments (or less, you can try lower and lower until it works). That's assuming your system can't handle the job as it is now.

I understand thank you!

RogerS wrote on 3/23/2022, 9:49 PM

For GPU try to find one that Vegas supports (4GB ram as minimum). NVIDIA 16XX, 20XX or 30XX cards would work if there are any you can afford. Given the length of the project you may want GPU rendering to cut render times. Otherwise MagixAVC with Mainconcept is going to take quite a while (1:1 or 1:2?)

There should be clip joining software that won't rerender, though this isn't something I've done. I'd read up on it.

Yes Vegas can render to external drives but does need space on your system drive to create a temp file so ensure there is plenty of room.

COBRAHAZE wrote on 3/24/2022, 5:49 AM

For GPU try to find one that Vegas supports (4GB ram as minimum). NVIDIA 16XX, 20XX or 30XX cards would work if there are any you can afford. Given the length of the project you may want GPU rendering to cut render times. Otherwise MagixAVC with Mainconcept is going to take quite a while (1:1 or 1:2?)

There should be clip joining software that won't rerender, though this isn't something I've done. I'd read up on it.

Yes Vegas can render to external drives but does need space on your system drive to create a temp file so ensure there is plenty of room.

Hey RogerS thanks for the indepth reply I will look for some Nvidia graphics cards today, Hope the prices come down soon :(

Are temp files usually the same size as the final rendered file or bigger?

Lets say I am going to render a huge .mp4 file that is going to be 256GB in file size..

What size do you think the temp file would be? Thanks again for the responses guys I really appreciate them!

FayFen wrote on 3/24/2022, 10:37 AM

I don't think that the "40 hours" is the factor, it's the complexity. you can have a 1 min project with tons of FX's and tracks and hit the wall. At any rate doing it in shorter segments is the first top tip.

diverG wrote on 3/24/2022, 5:11 PM

Before buying a new graphics card I would be inclined to make a few tests. Have found rendering out to a USB connected is slow due to the bandwith of the USB port. I don't recognise your machine. I presumed a laptop as you had purchased a portable drive.

Sys 1 Gig Z-890-UD, i9 285K @ 3.7 Ghz 64gb ram, 250gb SSD system, Plus 2x2Tb m2,  GTX 4060 ti, BMIP4k video out. Vegas 19 & V22(250), Edius 8.3WG and DVResolve19 Studio. Win 11 Pro. Latest graphic drivers.

Sys 2 Laptop 'Clevo' i7 6700K @ 3.0ghz, 16gb ram, 250gb SSd + 2Tb hdd,   nvidia 940 M graphics. VP19, Plus Edius 8WG Win 10 Pro (22H2) Resolve18

 

RogerS wrote on 3/24/2022, 9:07 PM

Prices are on the way down so you may be in luck!

I think the temp file would be 256GB or so. I'm not sure if it applies to every Vegas render format but they seem to create a temp file on the c: drive and then as part of the render process copy to the destination drive.

Perhaps try a test render with your chosen format and watch your c: drive space. Alternatively see if Voukoder behaves differently (I think it does).