This card currently is not supported in Vegas.

$249.00 seems pretty reasonable.
JJK

Is it possible to add a second videocard with HDMI output, and use that as a preview monitor for Vegas?
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=2&l2=6&l3=271&model=1175&modelmenu=1

Kim.

We just did a minor rev. on Connect HD to version 3.4.1 that make captures from the Intensity card 25% less compute intensive. The threading wasn't working as it should, but it is now. :)

The performance numbers have been updated over at cineform.com/products/TechNotes/Blackmagic/Intensity.htm

David Newman
CTO, CineForm

"This card currently is not supported in Vegas."
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I THINK you may be wrong.

I was looking at SUPPORTED SOFTWARE and it does mention vegas 6c:
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"Supported Application Versions
Many software applications are compatible with DeckLink cards. DeckLink drivers include specific support for the following popular applications but are also compatible with many other applications:
- Adobe After Effects 7.0
- Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0
- Autodesk Combustion 4.0.1
- Sony Vegas 6.0c, requires the DeckLink 4.8.1 specific version of drivers. This earlier version of drivers supports all DeckLink PCI and PCI-X cards but not the newer PCIe models. It supports application versions which were current at the time the drivers were released including After Effects 6.5 and Premiere Pro 1.5.1.

While older versions of these applications might work, these are the only versions which are officially supported and for which verification testing has been performed with current DeckLink drivers. Accordingly we recommend using these specific software versions for the latest features and compatibility."
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Here's the link:
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/support/detail.asp?techID=47

Just an added foot note here...

This morning I had to do a quick capture so I hooked up my HC3, and just out of curiousity, I pulled down the device menu and had a look. Along with the normal HD 1394 device option, there is listed "Blackmagic Decklink Device"

So Vegas DOES in fact support this card. THAT makes this whole thing very tempting (for me anyway)!! Although not really a big deal (I am running dual boot xp/vista), but does anybody know if this card has vista support??

As far as I know the BMD Intensity card has nothing to do with the BMD Decklink cards. Yes the Decklink cards work correctly with Vegas, 7.0d gives you all the audio channels even.
The information on the BMD site is hopelessly out of date too, you need driver version 5.6 for Vegas 7.0.
Vegas will happily use the SDI output (verified by me) and the SPDIF audio output (not verified by me but even Windoz sees it).

I can see no reason why Vegas wouldn't work with a video card that had HDMI outputs, it'd see nothing different to if it was driving VGA, DVI or HDMI although I don't know about the audio channels in the HDMI connection, probably would work also if you installed the Windoz drivers.
The BMD Intensity card though could be a totally different beast entirely.

Bob.

Interesting you say that, because their website is a little confusing. As you say, there is the Intensity card for $249… good price and reachable, and then there is the Decklink card at $995 …. NOT reachable (with my wallet anyway)

When you look at “Tech specs” for the Intensity card and go down to the bottom (heading: Extras) and click on the windows installation link, it brings you over to the DECKLINK support site. Also in the link that I supplied above it says that for Vegas 6d I must use the decklink driver 4.8..whatever.

So I just fired off an email to the Blackmagic people asking them if it is the Decklink card ONLY that is compatible with Vegas, or are they suggesting that you can use the Intensity card with the decklink drivers.

I’ll let you know if and when I get an answer.

I heard back from BlackMagic... the news is not good for Vegas7 owners:
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Hi George,

The Intensity card will currently not work with Vegas, and the DeckLink cards will only work up to Vegas 6. The Sony Vegas folks make our cards compatible with their software by taking a set of our drivers and integrating that into their software. This is much different than many other applications (FCP, Adobe, etc) which use an open architecture for hardware manufacturers to be able to write (and update) the drivers that just ‘plug-in’ to the desired software application.

And so the last set of drivers the Sony guys had integrated were back before Intensity and before Vegas 7. We continually are asking the Vegas team if they will integrate with our drivers again but so far it has been no luck getting that ball moving.

Oh and Vista compatibility is being worked on and falls into the ‘soon’ category.

Let me know if that makes sense or if other questions come up. Thanks!

Dan May
Blackmagic Design
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Come on Sony.... get off your ***!!!

Which is completely and utterly WRONG!

Vegas 7.0d DOES work with BMD drivers 5.6.
Read the release notes at the top of this very page.

So far I've only tested it with SD PAL SDI capture, works just fine, every part of it. When I can get my hands on our DVW 250P I'll try PTT, the only caveat is that the 250 doesn't support insert edits so I can only try a crash record.

I do agree with some of what BMD are saying, it would be good if Vegas tried to go a bit more with the flow, that'd mean way easier integration with many things.

Bob.

Well, as I said before, I saw the DECKLINK device clearly listed in 7d capture program. It may be that vegas6d is the last version that BlackMagic OFFICIALLY recognizes.

The whole thing really sucks though... $250 is a good price for full uncompressed capture. I certainly hope Sony is paying attention to this.

Isn't what Dan from Cineform saying that you can capture using their software to a CF DI and edit that in Vegas?

Without the CF DI you're looking at staggering data rates and storage requirements:

"8 bit @ 1920 x 1080 @ 24fps = 95 MB per/sec, or 334 GB per/hr."

And:

"Recommended disks for building HD disk arrays are currently the Seagate Cheetah Ultra-320 10k.6, Ultra-320 15k.2 or the Maxtor Ultra-320 10k drives. We don't recommend Ultra-160 drives for uncompressed HDTV work.

We recommend 8 x 10k drives or 6 x 15k drives when building an array. However, you can go as low as 6 for 10k and 4 for 15k; however the extra disks will help improve performance as the drives fill to capacity."

10x 15K Cheetahs will set you back around $3K and give you 2 hours worth of storage. You still need the SCSI controllers, backplane and a suitable mobo. Fine in a studio but that's about it.

Bob.

Also if you are looking to do 1080p24 work you have to first capture 1080i60 to disk (120MB/s) then extract out the 24P for post. With Connect HD (and all our software) the 24P signal is extracted in real-time upon capture. So instead of 124MB/s plus another render to 24p, we capture to average of 15MB/s 24P AVI file. No RAID is necessary.

David Newman
CTO, CineForm

"Isn't what Dan from Cineform saying that you can capture using their software to a CF DI and edit that in Vegas?"

I've looked at cineform and this is something that I am seriously considering.... but the price.... you have to purchase Intesity AND Cineform, and more than likely a few other didlies... shipping, duty (I'm in Canada)... etc. My guess is that by the time you pay off the final bill, it'll add up to a cool $1000. That's a bit different from when I started looking at this... a mere $250 (for the card) and bingo... uncompressed captures.

But what are you hoping to achieve with uncompressed captures?

I've no doubt that the 4:2:2 capture will be better than HDV written to tape. But none of these affordable cameras have anything like the resolving power of a full 1920x 1080 sensor. For $1,000 you get something better than HDV but just how far up the scale given the limitations of the optics and the sensors if you're looking at doing compositing is not a question to be overlooked.

Bob.