Blackscreen & crashing after replacing a (.mov) video

set wrote on 10/17/2016, 7:08 PM

Rather than manually create lower resolution of the 4K, then manually replace them, you can instantly create Proxy in Project Media tab. This will create 720p proxy besides the 4K version. I did this for DJI Osmo's footage.

3d87c4 wrote on 10/17/2016, 7:43 PM

FWIW: I had a heck of a time working with 4K quicktime video in Vegas 13. The proxies it generated were rather large, and it eventually froze up anyway.

I ended up running the originals through Handbrake, and creating the proxies with Handbrake too.

rolbi04 wrote on 10/18/2016, 7:00 AM

Damn, didn't know it before :<

Now it is too late to do so, I have my files edited in various ways and it would took me hours of hours of editing

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/18/2016, 7:39 AM

I have a trouble with replacing the video with a original[.mov] one

What types of file are the orginal mov-Files? ProRes?

NickHope wrote on 10/18/2016, 7:55 AM

Divide your project up into smaller "sub" projects simply by "save as" several times and deleting part of your timeline. In each of these projects remove all unused media from the project using the lightning bolt icon at the top left of the project media window, then save the project, then see if you can replace the media without trouble. Then transcode from the original media into a more Vegas-friendly intermediate media format before rebuilding a new full project from the sub-projects.

Your best chance of avoiding black frames is to do your render as the very first thing after restarting Vegas.

Besides the format of your orignal media, what is your final delivery medium and how long is your project? This will affect your best choice of intermediate media format. Sony XAVC Intra is possibly a good choice if your original media is 8-bit.

rolbi04 wrote on 10/18/2016, 1:47 PM

What types of file are the orginal mov-Files? ProRes?\

Hmm dont know really how to check that.. i am a bit uneducated about these apple inventions ;P

@Nick , thanks for an idea, will try it for sure.

Besides the format of your orignal media, what is your final delivery medium and how long is your project? This will affect your best choice of intermediate media format. Sony XAVC Intra is possibly a good choice if your original media is 8-bit.

// Project is 1.5 hour long, but i am still thinking about a final medium, probably .mp4 , because it is (mainly) for youtube

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/18/2016, 2:56 PM

What types of file are the orginal mov-Files? ProRes?\

Hmm dont know really how to check that.. i am a bit uneducated about these apple inventions ;P

What camera has shoot the 4K files? Or was it an external recorder?

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/18/2016, 2:59 PM

Sony XAVC Intra is possibly a good choice if your original media is 8-bit.

XAVC I is capable of up to 10bit. The playback capabilities of XAVC I are not so great as if one would take Cineform. Depends on the format, but UHD 50p XAVC I from my FS7 is not so easy in the playback in Vegas (even not with my 8 core system).

rolbi04 wrote on 10/18/2016, 5:29 PM

I have got these .mov files from different people, but i quess everything was recorded with an iphone, so i quess it is not pro-res.

/// small update, suddenly I've got black screen in preview(and render) on every single .mov file I got. I did re-installed quicktime and this might be a reason( but it should not be lol). Also I deinstalled all my additional plugins, but none of them were in use in this project. Damn it is getting strange! :< Any ideas guys?

set wrote on 10/18/2016, 6:57 PM

iPhone would be H.264 MOV.

Use MediaInfo to read your file. Very useful to analyze the media here.

For Youtube, here's the suggestion codec settings.

Philip Bloom shared one of iPhone 6S 4K video sample on his blog site (look for WeTransfer widget). So, I assume Rolbi04's project is using the same iPhone6S ?

> Putting this media on VP13/14 really painful... the playback suffers a lot.

I tried experiment with the free Catalyst Browse and it can read the file easily, but can't convert this to XAVC-L or XAVC-S, because no 4K template settings! Only XAVC Intra, but that changes resolution to 4096x2160 (NOT 3840x2160). Only AVC/AAC Internet Templates. (Convert to DPX is not a solution)

Probably working with just one / few MOV media has no issue like my experiment, but when working with hundreds of media, the Vegas Pro got 'tired'.

rolbi04 wrote on 10/19/2016, 1:12 PM

OK guys, I used handbrake to replace these 4K files, but as i mentioned I have encountered another problem - now, other (1080p) .mov files started to appear black ( it was perfectly normal before). Damn vegas.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 10/19/2016, 3:02 PM

I have converted iphone files with TMPGenc to XAVC-S before editing the footage in Vegas. Worked fine here. So maybe for such a conversion and the replacement of the mov files it is important to use another tool?

set wrote on 10/19/2016, 5:29 PM

Try using other than MOV format / container. Perhaps Sony MXF format / Sony XAVC.