By the way, you should also be able to burn the contents of that disc to a subdirectory on the PS3 hard drive (either the internal or an external) and play it just as well.

Also, I would take that disc to your local electronics superstore and try it in a bunch of Blu-ray players. I'll bet it plays in everything but the Samsungs.

Is Vegas making an avchd disk or a BDMV disk (without menus).
If it's a BDMV disk without menus there's only one blu-ray player I've heard of that will play the BDMV format from a dvd.
AVCHD should be no problem.

OK I missunderstood. If you burned the disc from Vegas it is Blu-ray format disc on regular DVD+R, not an AVCHD disc like I thought. I've had zero luck getting that kind of disc to playback on a PS3. Maybe things have changed on one of the recent PS3 updates.

>. I'll bet it plays in everything but the Samsungs.

FYI, a BDMV formated DVD+R disc (both single and dual layer) burned from the Vegas 8 Pro timeline using H.264/AVC encoding works just fine in my Samsung BD-P1200.

--Rob

Yeah, it's the AVCHD disc format that the BD-P1200 has trouble with. The Samsungs used to play that format, but took it off a couple of firmware updates ago.

Laurence -
I'm sort of burned out - especially behind all the various acronyms, so I'll just repeat my experience.

1 - Rendered a 75 minute Blu-Ray to HD directly from the Vegas 8 timeline - Tools>Burn disc>Blu-Ray disc
2 - Used default 15MPS template
3 - It bitched about "Not enough room on your disc" for the double density, estimating it was going to need 8.9gig.
4 - It only really needed 8.2 gig.
5 - Using the same links in Vegas 8, I burned the disc to a standard "double-density" DVD+R DL
6 - Works perfectly in my PS3 under Video>BDMV>STREAM

Won't be able to test it anywhere else for a while.

For those with bigger films, see my other link - the 4x Sony Blu-Ray burner is here! That'll take discs up to 50Gigs - but they cost some money, for sure.

v

OK so you didn't get the menus or immediate playback either. You had to go to the folder and play back the referenced data file.

If you render to the equivalent AVCHD format from Vegas, you can author to AVCHD disc from Ulead MF6+ HD. The video quality will look exactly the same but you'll be able to do menus and not have to sift through directories. The AVCHD disc done this way will play perfectly in all Blu-ray players with menus except for Samsung models which for some strange reason removed this feature a couple of firmware updates ago.

I also like the avchd route (MF6+) because each video will playback one after another.
When playing videos on a PS3 in data mode it's one video at a time, although they have added playlists for music & photos.

How exactly do you make an AVCHD disk?

It's one of the options from Ulead Movie Factory 6 plus HD with the extra HD authoring plugin. It also authors regular Bluray on BD-R and HD DVD on either HD DVD-R or DVD-R.

I have been using Ulead MovieFactory 6 Plus with an additional HD-Add-On pack ($20.00).
I render my avchd/h264 videos from the timeline in Vegas, then insert them into that authoring program, because they are compliant they are passed through the ulead encoder and multi-plexed onto a dvd (no re-encoding). The AVCHD disk creation doesn't have extensive custom menus.
The Blu-Ray disk module does and will allow you to mix avc/h264 or mpeg2 on a blu-ray disk.

I've previously posted how to export avchd/h264 compliant videos from Vegas to use in other authoring applications.

4eyes, I somehow can't find this earlier post of yours on how you export avchd/h.264 videos from Vegas; could you point me to the thread/post? I'd like to try this against my "regular" BD burning results... Thanks!

IMHO, HD video on regular DVD+-Rs (in either HD DVD or Blu-ray compatible AVCHD format) is a good match. The video looks great and you can get up to about 75 minutes of playback time (thanks Vic for updating our estimates).

That isn't to say that there isn't still an advantage to using BD-R discs. There is, but not for HDV which is only 1440 x 1080i x 25 mbps to begin with. Now if you have one of the new Sony EX1 cameras and want to present 1920 x 1080p at a higher bitrate, BD-R will let you do this, but for most of us with other cameras, DVD+-Rs are really quite adequate.

I am thinking of playing around with HD Blu-ray disk burning to learn what it is all about and so that I am ready when somebody wants the real thing.

My question is, is all this buring talked about in this thread done with standard DVD burners and not Blu-ray burners?

Thanks folks. This information, this whole forum, is very very instructive and useful.

Yup!

That's the exciting thing about it all.

Using your standard DVD burner, Vegas 8 (as above) and standard DVD media, you can burn full BluRay HD videos - 32 minutes on "regular" DV or 75 minutes on DVD+R DL double density discs.

Yup!

That's the exciting thing about it all.

Using your standard DVD burner, Vegas 8 (as above) and standard DVD media, you can burn full BluRay HD videos - 32 minutes on "regular" DV or 75 minutes on DVD+R DL double density discs.