Boris Rendering - I don't get it

mjroddy wrote on 11/24/2004, 10:25 PM
Boy... I've tried and tried and I'm not understanding the render process from Boris RED 3.
I imported two DV clips and set up some basic moves, a few crops and a couple chroma keys on the clips.
Easy stuff, really.
Now, my problem is rendering that file to something that Vegas can use.
Every time I render, the resulting event looks like it's fielded incorrectly.
So I've rendered Upper First & Lower First from Boris as and Uncompressed AVI. I put those on the timeline, twice each. Then I switch one of each to a different field order. So now I have every combination possible.
Still, the resulting playback looks incorrectly fielded. Movement looks "choppy." Does anybody else remember seeing this problem? What can I do to fix this?
Thanks for all advice and options.

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musman wrote on 11/25/2004, 1:09 AM
I haven't had this fields problem in Boris, except for with credit rolls. Found rendering as progressive gave me the best results.
Now, I'm assuming you're using Boris as a stnadalone engine, right? I have found my computer stutters on preview playback b/c it is a 2 year old p4 2.4 gig with 1 gig ram. But, it looks great when rendered in Vegas (ie along with the rest of the project).
Also, you might try the quicktime animated export option rather than the uncompressed avi. You can't export out anything longer than 50 sec in uncom avi- found that out a while ago and it was confirmed on the boris fx creativecow forum. Apparently it's some leave over from Boris' mac bckground.
I found the animated quicktime to preview a little better in Vegas and also look very so slightly better (at least for my credit roll) than the uncom avi. You might try that then see if this solves the problem.
WHat I find very awkward is that even the quicktime animated files exported from Boris play back choppy in Vegas and for some reason prerendering them takes way too long (10 min for a 1 min credit roll for me). So for me, Red is great in that it does some things Vegas can't, but I think I need a faster computer with a much better graphics card or Vegas needs better integration with Red for it to be a convenient option.
mjroddy wrote on 11/25/2004, 11:01 AM
Thanks for the reply.
I will make sure I tried the Quicktime Animation settings, though I think I did. I'm taking the resulting files and rendering them in Vegas, so everything should be in Vegas format at that point. It just appears to be a fielding issue that I can't get to.
Interesting note: my clip is just over a minute and the Uncom AVI had no problem. I wonder why I got away with it while others can't.
JHendrix wrote on 11/26/2004, 10:02 AM
my prob in red was i selecteed clip in VVtimeline to determine length of effect> assign red as plug> go into red> assign red timeline lenght to same as VV clip length> add a couple clips on a 3D cube> tweek the cube a bit> render to vv> clips play back at wrong speend in VV render..

in other words, the clips on the 3d cube ply fast like a charlie chaplin movie while the cube animation plays at normal speed.

how to let clips play at normal speed?