Bug ? with Vegas video stabilization

Stivi wrote on 5/24/2019, 4:35 AM

Hello,
I want to stabilize 4K rushes from an FDR-AXP33.
Since Build 424, the Vegas video stabilization
* does not give any visible results,
* the final result is worse than the original.
I tried in basic, professional or expert mode with different settings.
Despite restoring the default configuration, despite a complete uninstall and re-installation of Vegas Pro 16, the problem persists.
I attach you an image of the preview at 1s and 8s, as well as the properties.
Do you have the same problem ?
Thank you in advance for your analysis.

Général
Nom complet                              : G:\Vidéo\Végas Pro\Problème\C0226.MP4
Format                                   : XAVC
Identifiant du codec                     : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
Taille du fichier                        : 85,5 Mio
Durée                                    : 11s 520 ms
Type de débit global                     : Variable
Débit global moyen                       : 62,2 Mb/s
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2018-08-29 13:41:04
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2018-08-29 13:41:04Vidéo
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Profil du format                         : High@L5.1
Paramètres du format                     : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Paramètres du format, CABAC              : Oui
Paramètres du format, RefFrames          : 2 images
Identifiant du codec                     : avc1
Identifiant du codec/Info                : Advanced Video Coding
Durée                                    : 11s 520 ms
Type de débit                            : Variable
Débit                                    : 60,0 Mb/s
Largeur                                  : 3 840 pixels
Hauteur                                  : 2 160 pixels
Format à l'écran                         : 16/9
Type d'images/s                          : Constant
Images par seconde                       : 25,000 Im/s
Espace de couleurs                       : YUV
Sous-échantillonnage de la chrominance   : 4:2:0
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 8 bits
Type de balayage                         : Progressif
Bits/(Pixel*Image)                       : 0.289
Taille du flux                           : 83,1 Mio (97%)
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2018-08-29 13:41:04
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2018-08-29 13:41:04
Gamme de couleurs                        : Limited
Coordonnées de chromaticité              : BT.709
Caractéristiques du transfert            : xvYCC
Coefficients de la matrice               : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcCAudio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Paramètres du format                     : Big / Signed
Identifiant du codec                     : twos
Durée                                    : 11s 520 ms
Type de débit                            : Constant
Débit                                    : 1 536 kb/s
Canaux                                   : 2 canaux
Echantillonnage                          : 48,0 kHz
Profondeur des couleurs                  : 16 bits
Taille du flux                           : 2,11 Mio (2%)
Date d'encodage                          : UTC 2018-08-29 13:41:04
Date de marquage                         : UTC 2018-08-29 13:41:04Autre
Type                                     : meta
Durée                                    : 11s 520 ms
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Général
  Nom : C0226.MP4
  Dossier : G:\Vidéo\Végas Pro\Problème
  Type : XAVC-S
  Taille : 87,52 MB (89 624 050 octets)
  Créé/Créée : samedi 24 novembre 2018 , 14:21:39
  Modifié : mercredi 29 août 2018, 15:41:17
  Consulté/Consultée : samedi 24 novembre 2018, 14:21:39
  Attributs : ArchiveSéquences
  Vidéo : 00:00:11,520, 25,000 ips progressif, 3840x2160x32, XAVC-S
  Audio : 00:00:11,520, 48 000 Hz; Stéréo, PCMRésumé
  [TCFM] : 9Informations ACID
  Bloc ACID : non
  Bloc d'étirement : non
  Liste d'étirement : non
  Infos étirement 2 : non
  Marqueurs de battement  : non
  Battements détectés : nonAutres métadonnées
  Régions/marqueurs : non
  Marqueurs de commande : nonMedia Manager
  Repères média : nonModule externe
  Nom : so4compoundplug.dll
  Dossier : C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 16.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format : AVC
  Version : Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Société : MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

Comments

Marco. wrote on 5/24/2019, 4:41 AM

Do you have any plug-in available that does a CMOS fixing, like ProDAD's "CMOS Fixr"? If so, try applying this before using the Vegas Pro stabilizer.

Stivi wrote on 5/24/2019, 4:55 AM

Sorry, but I don't have that kind of plugin.

Stivi wrote on 5/24/2019, 5:18 AM

To be more precise, I wish that in this example the horizon remains fixed after stabilization.
Would I reach the limits of Vegas video stabilization ?

j-v wrote on 5/24/2019, 5:24 AM

To be more precise, I wish the horizon remains fixed after stabilization.
Would I reach the limits of Vegas video stabilization ?

For that alone I don't use Stabilisation, but always Pan/ Crop with a little zoom

Stivi wrote on 5/24/2019, 5:34 AM

Thank you. I thought about it, using the keyframes, but ... it's a big job
If stabilization does not allow it, that's what I'll do.

Stivi wrote on 5/25/2019, 4:50 AM

Obviously, the slow vertical drift of a media is not corrected by the stabilizing effect of Vegas.

It's surprising !

Maybe in an upcoming update ?

In these cases, as j-v wrote, I'm going to use pan / crop and keyframes.

j-v wrote on 5/25/2019, 5:47 AM

AFAIK is a stabilizer not intended for that, but for (heavy) shaking footage.

Jack S wrote on 5/26/2019, 3:49 AM

Use the legacy Stabilizer with a smoothing value of 10. If the clip isn't too long this should eliminate the drift. If you can't see the legacy stabilizer, select Preferences with Shift held down. Go to the Internal tab and search for 'Expose Legacy Stabilizer', then change the Value field to TRUE. Don't forget to apply the FX as a Media FX after converting your clip to a sub-clip.

Stivi wrote on 5/26/2019, 5:28 AM

Hello and a big thank you.
This is exactly what I was looking for, having already used this possibility of the stabilizer on VP 14.
It works perfectly with a smoothing value of 1. Thanks again.
As I already work with subclip, it's perfect.