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j-v wrote on 1/23/2020, 2:34 PM

Look at the specs for VPro 17 here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/specifications/#productMenu

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 25H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 591.86 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 26.20.100.7985
Vegas software: VP 10 to 23 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

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Tom-Franklin wrote on 1/25/2020, 9:25 AM

Thanks for the response. I had looked at those specs but since this is a new build, I'd like to go with more than the minimum. I am especially interested if hyperthreading is worth the extra investment in an i9 rather than an i7.

john_dennis wrote on 1/25/2020, 10:02 AM

Here's a look at what hyperthreading could do while encoding in an app that will keep the processors very busy.

Performance Difference 229-194=35 35/194=0.18x100=18%

Cost Difference 488-374=114 114/374=0.30x100=30%

Intel's processor specs page comparing the two processors. Example only. I'm not proposing either of these two processors.

Sly Post Analysis Quip

If Apple was configuring the systems they would probably spec the processor without hyperthreading and pocket the money. In my case, I'd probably pay the one-time premium for the chance at 18% extra processing performance over the four year life of my system.

fred-w wrote on 1/25/2020, 11:48 AM

Threadripper is it, is there really a comparison any longer?

 

TheRhino wrote on 1/25/2020, 7:23 PM

As noted in my other posts, last April I upgraded an aging Xeon workstation to a 9900K @ 4.9ghz, Asus Z390 WS workstation class motherboard, 32GB DDR4, Liquid Cooled VEGA 64 & Corsair H150i liquid CPU for $1350. This system matched the pricier AMD Threadripper 2950X or 1950X systems in Vegas performance and was less expensive.... At the time, the AMD 3950X was 3/4 of a year away & my Intel system supports Thunderbolt 3 for my fast external RAID enclosures.

If I were upgrading a 2nd workstation today, I would consider the $750 AMD 3950X processor & $500 Radeon 7 GPU. However, if you need Thunderbolt 3 for external RAID enclosures, like I do, there are limited AMD motherboard choices... I think ASROCK has an X570 board & TB3 add-on card but Intel doesn't like to license TB3 on AMD motherboards... I prefer ASUS workstation class motherboards - my older Xeon P6T6 motherboards have given me trouble-free, heavy usage for 10 years..

I can't find any 3950X Vegas benchmarks yet, but in Adobe Premiere, the 3950X is about 15% faster than a stock 9900K, so maybe 10% faster than my overclocked 9900K... You will have to decide if that 10% gain is worth paying 50% more for the CPU ($750 vs. $500). However, other apps, like Handbrake, are better written to take advantage of larger multi-core CPUs...

Rather than upgrading a 2nd workstation, I ended-up getting a Evoo 17" laptop at Walmart for $999 with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, GTX 2060 GPU, 16 GB, room for (3) M.2 drives & (1) SSD drive, (2) mini display ports & 1 (HDMI), etc. It's faster than my 6-core Xeons & I am using it to edit family videos from the comfort of my living room Laziboy recliner vs. having to spend more time in the studio... If I spend any more money this year it will be on camera gear because I am happy with my current editing capabilities... Then, the next workstation can be upgraded when PCIe 5.0 & USB 4.0 & TB3 are present on the motherboard...

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Workstation C with $600 USD of upgrades in April, 2021
--$360 11700K @ 5.0ghz
--$200 ASRock W480 Creator (onboard 10G net, TB3, etc.)
Borrowed from my 9900K until prices drop:
--32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3200 ($100 on Black Friday...)
Reused from same Tower Case that housed the Xeon:
--Used VEGA 56 GPU ($200 on eBay before mining craze...)
--Noctua Cooler, 750W PSU, OS SSD, LSI RAID Controller, SATAs, etc.

Performs VERY close to my overclocked 9900K (below), but at stock settings with no tweaking...

Workstation D with $1,350 USD of upgrades in April, 2019
--$500 9900K @ 5.0ghz
--$140 Corsair H150i liquid cooling with 360mm radiator (3 fans)
--$200 open box Asus Z390 WS (PLX chip manages 4/5 PCIe slots)
--$160 32GB of G.Skill DDR4 3000 (added another 32GB later...)
--$350 refurbished, but like-new Radeon Vega 64 LQ (liquid cooled)

Renders Vegas11 "Red Car Test" (AMD VCE) in 13s when clocked at 4.9 ghz
(note: BOTH onboard Intel & Vega64 show utilization during QSV & VCE renders...)

Source Video1 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 on motherboard in RAID0
Source Video2 = 4TB RAID0--(2) 2TB M.2 (1) via U.2 adapter & (1) on separate PCIe card
Target Video1 = 32TB RAID0--(4) 8TB SATA hot-swap drives on PCIe RAID card with backups elsewhere

10G Network using used $30 Mellanox2 Adapters & Qnap QSW-M408-2C 10G Switch
Copy of Work Files, Source & Output Video, OS Images on QNAP 653b NAS with (6) 14TB WD RED
Blackmagic Decklink PCie card for capturing from tape, etc.
(2) internal BR Burners connected via USB 3.0 to SATA adapters
Old Cooler Master CM Stacker ATX case with (13) 5.25" front drive-bays holds & cools everything.

Workstations A & B are the 2 remaining 6-core 4.0ghz Xeon 5660 or I7 980x on Asus P6T6 motherboards.

$999 Walmart Evoo 17 Laptop with I7-9750H 6-core CPU, RTX 2060, (2) M.2 bays & (1) SSD bay...

rtbond wrote on 1/26/2020, 5:31 AM

It just completed an Intel HEDT build. I am very happy with the results. See details in my signature line below. I went with the 14 core processor largely due to availability as of December 2019. I wanted a platform that could last me 5-10 years (I squeezed 11 years out of my last rig)

--Rob

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Rob Bond

My System Info:

  • Vegas Pro 22 Build 194
  • OS: Windows 11.0 Home (64-bit), Version: 10.0.26100 Build 26100
  • Processor: i9-10940X CPU @ 3.30GHz (14 core)
  • Physical memory: 64GB (Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 memory kit)
  • Motherboard Model: MSI x299 Creator (MS-7B96)
  • GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC ULTRA (Studio Driver Version =  536.40)
  • Storage: Dual Samsung 970 EVO 1TB SSD (boot and Render); WDC WD4004FZWX, 7200 RPM (media)
  • Primary Display: Dell UltraSharp 27, U2723QE, 4K monitor with 98% DCI-P3 and DisplayHDR 400 with Dell Display Manager
  • Secondary Display: LG 32UK550-B, entry-level 4k/HDR-10 level monitor, @95% DCI-P3 coverage
JN- wrote on 1/26/2020, 6:03 AM

 

@rtbond Hi Rob, do feel free to add to the benchmarking thread with your new build, located here.

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VFR2CFR, Variable frame rate to Constant frame rate link to zip here.

Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

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PC ... Corsair case, own build ...

CPU .. i9 9900K, iGpu UHD 630

Memory .. 32GB DDR4

Graphics card .. MSI RTX 2080 ti

Graphics driver .. latest studio

PSU .. Corsair 850i

Mboard .. Asus Z390 Code

 

Laptop… XMG

i9-11900k, iGpu n/a

Memory 64GB DDR4

Graphics card … Laptop RTX 3080

rtbond wrote on 1/26/2020, 6:12 AM

I will have a look at the benchmarking thread.

Rob Bond

My System Info:

  • Vegas Pro 22 Build 194
  • OS: Windows 11.0 Home (64-bit), Version: 10.0.26100 Build 26100
  • Processor: i9-10940X CPU @ 3.30GHz (14 core)
  • Physical memory: 64GB (Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 memory kit)
  • Motherboard Model: MSI x299 Creator (MS-7B96)
  • GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC ULTRA (Studio Driver Version =  536.40)
  • Storage: Dual Samsung 970 EVO 1TB SSD (boot and Render); WDC WD4004FZWX, 7200 RPM (media)
  • Primary Display: Dell UltraSharp 27, U2723QE, 4K monitor with 98% DCI-P3 and DisplayHDR 400 with Dell Display Manager
  • Secondary Display: LG 32UK550-B, entry-level 4k/HDR-10 level monitor, @95% DCI-P3 coverage