Camcorder AF Problems

SphinxRa40 wrote on 1/23/2017, 12:19 PM

Hi,

I am more an editor then a shooter, i bought a Sony Handycam HDR-CX410 a few years ago, i noticed back then

already some strange things wich i never had with my old Digital 8 DCR-TRV230E ( i have shoot years ago a lot of outdoor party's),

With that old DCR the focus did a better job and also in low light, pretty bizarre all, but back to the problem/issue, i already googled

for a few hours by now, the HDR does AF and/or manual are working, but even when the cam is not moving and is standing

still on a standard and focused on the subject i get a blurry/fuzzy every few seconds (at day light and low light), this ruined alot

of recordings that my wife made of our baby i see now, i have no idea what is going on and this is really annoying, all i could find

out on google is little trick to use AF then switch to manual (wich i already tried and thought myself), it is sharp on the subject but

again every few seconds it goes blurry/fuzzy and goes back, the moment it goes blurry/fuzzy is for a second to :/

Greet

 

Comments

NickHope wrote on 1/24/2017, 12:36 AM

Just sounds like normal "focus hunting" but it shouldn't do that after you've switched to manual focus. I guess the camera might be faulty. When it goes blurry/fuzzy can you hear the lens mechanism moving?

SphinxRa40 wrote on 1/24/2017, 8:35 AM

well the term "focus hunting" is new for me but again google is full of it, makes a bit sense while slowly zooming in and that happens (that out of focus everytime what i have), today i tested the camera, i have to take some words i wrote back, i printed a sharpness test layout and put the cam on a big tv and on a tripod, the sheet on a window stays sharp, i checked out some videos i made from last summer at the zoo (outide-clear-sunny day) and same issue as i written before, you can see it clearly while zoom in/out very slowly, and at low light today (guess this daylight in room is not enough for this camera).

So what i could gathered (and learned) is never zoom in/out on auto? get a better camera for low-light situations?

I thought the point of a simple Handycam is to pick up and just shoot like the old days, never had these things with Digital 8, and you can't hear the lens mechanism while that is happening, i read about faulty focus cams to, but thats more when it don't focus at all anymore, this want to focus to much (while zooming) i guess...

NickHope wrote on 1/24/2017, 11:06 PM

Your DCR-TRV230E has a sensor size of 1/6" but your HDR-CX410 has a larger sensor size of 1/3.91". The larger sensor should mean less noise in low light, and generally better image quality, but it also probably means any focus hunting will be more obvious because your depth of field is generally shallower with a larger sensor.

As for zooming, my rule is more like never zoom in/out during a shot at all, whether on auto or not, except for perhaps very slow creeping zooms/reveals (which I prefer to do in post if I have enough resolution in the footage) or very fast zooms for handheld action footage. Generally (and it's a matter of taste of course) I prefer straight cuts between focal lengths, although it's hard to resist doing creeping zooms/reveals in post if you're publishing at a lower resolution than the footage was captured.

SphinxRa40 wrote on 1/25/2017, 5:25 AM

thank for the explanation Nick, tho it is so confusing all, just googled a bit about sensor sizes, so much math behind it all its hard to find the right camera ( i am looking for a new one and want to shoot more this summer), followed CES 2017 a bit to, not much new camera's are coming as far as i could find out, one of the reason i bought the HDR-CX410 was for green screen/chroma key filming just for fun/test years ago, well that was a drama with this camera, as i found out later about colour sampling, if i remember correctly standard/semi camera's use 4:2:0 and for chroma you need at least 4:2:2 or 4:4:4, but that is all in pro camera's i could find out back then, then the camera went more to just a cam in the house for simple things, anyway as for the zooming part a very good tip indeed, that makes sense all, but yes the resolution is then very important, if do zoom in/out in post/editing. Will try todo with the new cam if that happens and teel my wife before all baby shots are ruined again with zooming in/out and moving camera, better quilty means (HD) now more careful handling i geuss also then just shoot, zoom away and no problems like with digital 8 (and knowledge about sensors;), i saw a lot of youtube video's that have same thing while the uploader don't even see/saw it and knows about it, some comments of users wrote it also.