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Serena wrote on 9/20/2006, 4:31 PM
Not a normal characteristic of DV. Can you provide a more detailed description? How fast is the pan? Do you have image stabilisation switched on? etc.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/20/2006, 4:53 PM

Better yet, can you provide a short clip?


Jøran Toresen wrote on 9/20/2006, 5:17 PM
Chrisgrand

Stuttering has nothing to do with the DV-format. It’s almost impossible to do a smooth pan (or zoom) with a (hand held) camcorder. You can smooth the motion with a deshaking / stabilizing application. Examples are 2d3 SteadyMove (a plug-in to Premiere Pro / Elements) and DeShaker (a plug-in to VirtualDub).

I wish Vegas could offer a stabilizing plug-in. Then Vegas would be my only video editing application!

Best wishes,
Joran
Jøran Toresen wrote on 9/20/2006, 5:55 PM
RCourtney
The NewBlue Motion Effects have nothing with video stabilizing to do, if this is what you intended to communicate.

Joran
je@on wrote on 9/20/2006, 6:03 PM
If anyone is trying to stabilize shots due to lousy camera operation - handheld or otherwise - they should spend some time learning to do smooth moves rather than trying to fix 'em in post. You're wasting a lot of valuable time!
Jøran Toresen wrote on 9/20/2006, 6:21 PM
Jeaton
I totally agree. Butt the word isn’t perfect. And sometimes you have to stabilize your footage. And therefore most of us want / use a stabilizing application. I use both 2d3 SteadyMove and DeShaker.

Joran
Serena wrote on 9/20/2006, 7:47 PM
Well, chrisgrand has asked a question which seems unrelated to the matters you're answering. His problem is unlikely to be about unsteady camerawork, otherwise he wouldn't have asked the question.
epirb wrote on 9/20/2006, 7:57 PM
Chris, this isnt a suggestion as to how to fix, but just a statement or thought .
Is it possible that when the footage was shot that the camera used had some sort of steadyhand function on?
I ask only thru experience in which I was on a tripod but acidentaly turned on optic stabilization(was on one of my preset buttons on my FX1) Of course I didnt notice it in the viewfinder, but when I got back and reviewed the footage my nice slow pan had the herky jerys something awful.
I actually used a velocity envelope to help it somewhat but it was still there by all means.
Jøran Toresen wrote on 9/20/2006, 8:11 PM
Serena, chrisgrands problem may be caused by an unsteady camerawork, or by enabling stabilization in the camera. My main points are: 1) Stuttering has nothing with the DV-format to do. 2) You can smooth the panning using a video stabilizer. 3) I wish there was a video stabilizing plug-in in Vegas.

And Serena, How can you explain his problems? And what is your solution?

Joran
Serena wrote on 9/20/2006, 9:57 PM
Joran, you have to back up a little and you'll see my response, right there under his post. Jay Gladwell's suggestion is good. I suspect epirb has it right. The point is that we don't have enough information to respond with anything other than generalisations, and while the general points you've made are relevant I wouldn't prejudge his camera work. He might have been using a tripod; if handheld his pan might have been smooth (professionals can do it). But I agree that DeShaker can fix a lot of minor problems and it's good to make sure people are aware. We just need to know more background for this particular query.
The difficulty I was trying to avoid was having the thread run away from the query (as can happen when people read only the most recent post), not to suggest that your advice was incorrect.
epirb wrote on 9/21/2006, 4:24 AM
>The difficulty I was trying to avoid was having the thread run away from the query (as can happen when people read only the most recent post), not to suggest that your advice was incorrect.
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sheesh speak of the devil even though i read all the posts I missed that you had already mentioned stabil. in your first post Serena.
But I agree more info is needed from the poster.
Dan Sherman wrote on 9/21/2006, 6:49 AM
If your camera is tripod mounted THAT is your stabalization device. Optical image stabalizer should be off.
Also, if you are shooting in 24p mode, you may get characteristic strobing if you are panning too quickly.
richard-courtney wrote on 9/21/2006, 7:35 AM
The VAAST email stated: "The Motion FX include a stabilizer for that shaky, hand-held
video, beautiful camera movements, blurs, and more. " but when you
examine what is included it is not what the poster wanted.
chrisgrand wrote on 9/21/2006, 11:23 AM
Thanks for all the tips! More than I expected.

Camera work? Not the problem.
Stabilizer? I have seen this before, but not this time.
The fix? Motion blur for the track was turned off, and I also rendered at DC coeff. at 10 instead of 9. Smooth as butter now (almost).

Thanks again to all.