Can captured file names not include timecode???

mbelli wrote on 6/5/2004, 7:33 PM

Just started capturing with Vegas 5 and when I capture clips, all I get for clip file names are clip 1, clip2,. clip3 and so forth.

Can you not set it so Vegas also includes the timecode number as well, like Scenalyzer does in the file name captured?

If not, this is a serious, serious issue. Often clients make extensive timecode notes so it's very important to know a clip's timecode. I've always been able to do this with Premiere.




MB

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Spot|DSE wrote on 6/5/2004, 7:56 PM
Serious, serious? Oh no! All this time I didn't realize what I was missing! :-)
Seriously, Vegas keeps the t/c in the file, and can also keep a log of all the files' various t/c. No, it doesn't name the file with timecode, and if you assign a base name to the file, it uses a base file name + its order in the capture process. Name the tape, and it sequences all information from that tape if you capture as a tape.
Or, batch capture and save that data as a session that can be recalled later. Use Edit Details in Vegas if you want to look at everything associated with those clips later, including t/c, add t/c in the media pool if you want to view t/c, etc.
you can also right click a piece of media and view it's timecode from the properties menu.
You can also look at the T/C from the clip explorer, or view a listing of I/O points for T/C in the Batch Capture/Advanced capture tab.
T/C is always with the file, but not the name of the file.
So far, it's not been a big concern in the 4 versions of Vegas as a video app, and I doubt you'll ever see it. More folks desire tape names vs seeing t/c as a file name convention would be my guess.
taliesin wrote on 6/5/2004, 7:57 PM
No, you cannot do that with Vegas capture tool. But I wonder why you say you've been able to do it with Premiere. I don't think Premiere does that. What I know is - Scenalyzer is the one and only capture tool which does that. There are lots of Premiere users who use Scenalyzer for that job because Premiere doesn't do it.

But do you really need this? - You'll have the timecode when capturing with Vegas capture tool. It's stored and it can be seen and clips can be ordered by using the timecode or the datacode. Simply use the detailed view of the MediaPool - probably there's all you need.

Marco
taliesin wrote on 6/5/2004, 7:58 PM
Oh, Spot, you've been bit faster. ;-)

Marco
farss wrote on 6/5/2004, 7:59 PM
Don't know if this helps but you can drop the clip onto the Vegas TL and there it'll display the source TC. TC is not the godsend you may think it is BTW, you need to have a pretty strict shooting and logging regime.
mbelli wrote on 6/5/2004, 9:19 PM

Sounds like I can see through the media pool, the timecode in my captured clips, that's all I care about, I'll experiment with it later.

I was flipping out, thinking there was no way to do this in Vegas. I mean, I just finished a TV documentary where the producer gave me 60 DV tapes to selectively capture and pages and pages of timecode notes for interviews. As long as there's a way to see the the original timecode captured in clips I don't need it in the filename necessarily

In regards to Premiere, yes Premiere 6.5 can do this for sure. I've been capturing with it and a DVStorm for awhile and it does this. However, I noticed that Premiere Pro does not have this function (or I haven't found it yet as I'm just playing with the trial version now).

Still, can't see why Vegas and other NLE don't provide a few options in regard to file naming conventions of captured clips like the inexpensive Scenalyzer does.


MB
farss wrote on 6/5/2004, 10:34 PM
I think you answered yourself!
One of the great things about the old SoFo philosphy was they gave you the kitchen with the basics, the bench, the fridge and the stove. They didn't put the coffee maker on the bench because as soon as they put an expresso machine there a whole bunch of us would want a perculator.
The guy who writes Scenalyser does a fine job and it's cheap, why take his income away from him and burden Vegas with more code? This is the mistake uStuff keep repeating, burdening apps with things they have trouble getting to work as well as the 3rd party stuff does out of fear of what I don't know.
Same thing goes for creating complex text, Vegas gives you the real basics and with a bit of thought you can do most things. If you find that too hard there's heaps of choices outside Vegas to do the job. This lets those guys focus on doing their bit well and keeps the Vegas team focused on the core app.
I think one of the best examples of this kind of thinking is AutoCad, an incredibly powerful workspace and it can be made to do just about anything through 3rd party add ons.
taliesin wrote on 6/6/2004, 4:33 AM
Remember in Vegas you can have your ORIGINAL timecode burnt in. I don't see that much use to have a timecode-based filename. But I see there is much use to have clips sorted based on the timecode and much use to be able to see the original timecode burnt into the video for organizing purposes. Both is available in Vegas.

Marco